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An ally in need is not necessarily an ally indeed.

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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Oct 31, 2009 at 14:27


From a Turkish citizen I have never expected to hear anything divergent from the official Turkish propaganda. You fully confirm my expectations doing your best to mislead, mix up and obscure the real state of affairs. I guess that in view of their history, religious and national character it's what Turks do really excel in. Critical thinking is too dangerous a thing in Turkey to enjoy any widespread circulation and popular appreciation. Conformism isn't and where barinwashing fails Article 301 of the Turkish Penal Code is the last remedy.

Now you write :

"Turkey's been ally for the west also US for more than 6 decades. During this time Turkey held important duties in Cuban crisis-Korea War- Cold War- War against terror ..etc. Turkey shared intelligence and opened it's ports and bases for NATO and US.

In return what we earned. NOTHING !!!"

What an incredible distortion of reality! Turkey has earned almost everything in return and owes its very survival and existence to both Uncle Sam and his NATO !

Let me remind you of a few details the Turkish Ministry of Truth&Brainwashing has forgotten to tell you or you prefer to conceal from us.

Turkey played a dubious role during the Second World War. Four days before Hitler's invasion of Russia it signed a treaty of friendship and co-operation with the Nazis. Some say there were secret stipulations attached to the Treaty to the effect that Turkey would enter the war if the Nazis crossed the Volga. And indeed, the Nazi invasion was seen in Turkey deep sympathies and far-reaching expectations. Pan-Turkism was revived and reached its peak during the Nazi push to the Volga while strategic Turkish raw materials were flowing to Germany. When the Soviets beat the Germans the Turks gave the Nazi submarines a free passage out of the Black Sea. Stalin never forgot or forgave this. Besides, no one else but Soviet Russia had saved Kemalist regime in 1920-1921 from the sure ruin and how did the Turks pay their erstwhile saviours? So Stalin was ready to punish Turkey in 1945-1946. His plan was to invade Turkey , capture Constantinople and incorporate directly the Western Armenian territories lost due to the Kars Peace Treaty of 1921. He had also plans to move the Oecumenical Patriarchate to Moscow after the defeat of perfidious Turkey. But the good brave and 'idealistic' Americans intervened and thwarted all these plans and so they defended Turkey against the USSR saving it one more time from impending Nemesis.

Then the Americans undertook to re-organize and re-arm with modern weapons the backward and inefficient Turkish army. Turkey became immediately an important link in the undeclared US-led war on the USSR. With this powerful protector at hand the Turks could afford to organize the pogroms in Constantinople without fearing any US 'humanitarian' protests or consequences. The Greeks were beaten, robbed, killed and kicked out of the capital and the Turks continued their double-tongued strategic game of abusing the US to promote the Turkish aims. And their most successful gain was achieved in July/August 1974 when the US 6th Fleet was actually guarding the Turkish invasion army against a potential Greek counterattack. At that time Henry Kissinger in person intimidated and blackmailing the Greek colonels who had been brought to power in Athens by the CIA in 1967 to keep Greece "free from communism" , i.e. US-servile. This way the Greeks lost almost half Cyprus, the Turks conducted another successful genocide and mass expulsion of Greek kafirs expanding their territory and -incidentally - that of Islam too and invariably blaming the victims for their own crimes.

This all happened under the protective umbrella of the US/NATO. It's not hard to predict a single Soviet division deployed on the Armenian-Turkish border would have immediately stopped the whole Turkish aggression against the Greeks in Cyprus. Instead a US Fleet safeguarded the success of the aggressive Turkish operation pretending to be there just to save US citizens. By the way, now all Northern Cyprus is totally Turkified and Islamized. Almsot nothing reminds of the fact that for 3000 years it was as much part of the Hellenic world as Athens or Crete.

Then the Kurdish-Leftist civil war and the coup d'etats came in the 70-ies and 80-ies and again the Turks profited from the US/NATO support and know-how. As part of Plan "Gladio" a special secret stay-behind army in Turkey was orgainzed to resist a possible Soviet invasion. The Grey Wolves and other extermist organizations were recruited into it and in the 70-ies and 80-ies they were used to massacre Turkish demonstrations of protest, assassinate Turkish socialists and dissidents and then destroy Kurdish villages, torture and execute Kurds and " and also carrying false flag attacks in which the Counter-Guerrilla attacked villages, dressed up as PKK fighters, and raped and executed people randomly ".

After the collapse of the USSR and the beginning scramble for Turan and political and military engagement in Azerbaijan could not go ahead without US/NATO approval as it exposed both to foreseeable violent Russian reactions and repraisals. It was after all direct encroachment on the Russian sphere of influence and recent Russian territories. But with US/NATO the Turks feared nothing. True, they failed dismally in Nagorno-Karabakh but instead were the party that sent most foreign jihadists to Chechnia.

> We have just stupid stratotankers and expensive weapons which we could acquire by money , not with the alliance and all the risk.<

Do you mean you were able to buy weapons for the money you had earned by doing business with Hitler ? And who would sell them to you and teach you how to use it ? Anyway, all the weapons you might have bought would not have saved you if the US hadn't foolishly intervened on your behalf. But instead of gratitude you showed nothing but perfidy and amnesia, i.e. exactly the same Moslem qualities of the Turk shown to Lenin's Russia after saving Kemal in 1920-1921 and to Britain and France in 1914 for rescuing Turkey from sure destruction during the Crimean War and the War of 1877-1878. Who doesn't know Turkish history will always be a dupe of the perfidious Turk.

> Also after all this years EU , mr. sarkozy and ms. merkel slams the doors against our faces, and plays the honour of a great nation. which is holdin 1 million men army,

Equipped with Israeli/US weapons, trained by US generals and modelled after the NATO standards. It's also interesting to note why Turkey needs such a big army? Isn't it fear and greed of Turkish militarists that make the Turks ruin their meager economy with the exorbitant military expenditures amounting up to 5.3% of GDP?

> 75 million population,

Overpopulation in Turkey is one of the main driving forces behind the Pan-Turkic dream. The country has few resources and with growing population- if colonizing Germany and other European states is stopped- this may bring about distastrous effects.

> 17 th largest economy,

... and 20% of people living under the poverty line; public debt equalling 40% of GDP; 10,5% inflation rate (this places Turkey as the 153rd least inflationary country); external debt amounting to $277.1 billion ... Fine economy, indeed!

> 5000 years of history,

Turkish history in Anatolia starts around 1050 with the first Seljuk jihadist robberies. All the rest is un-Turkish and stolen history par excellance. The delirium of Hittite-Sumerian origins of today's Turks invented by Ghazi Mustafa Kemal belongs to the realm of fairy tales like most things taught in Turkish schools which are notorious for their anti-scientific self-glorifying exploits. Take the sun language theory as another example of Kemalist anti-science.

> which has 120 universities, nanolabs, crypto-labs etc.

...and one mosque for every 350 citizens - i.e. the highest number of mosques per capita in the world- while one hospital for every 60 000 citizens ; and with 90 000 imams - more imams than doctors or teachers...and thousands of madrasa-like Imam-Hatip schools and about four thousand more official state-run Qur'an courses, not counting the unofficial Qur'an schools, which may expand the total number tenfold. .. and the governmental Directorate of Religious Affairs which has a larger budget than eight other ministries combined...

> They still see us as a sick man of Europe. Hear this. Turkey is not sick anymore. Iceland is.<

Turkey has recovered from one sickness to fall sick with another infectious disease. It forgot all its doctors. This time it is the recurrent "Rabies Osmanica" that the Turks are suffering from. The remedy against it is well known though. Just look at any history book issued outside Ataturkistan and compare the map of Turkish jihad around 1500 and its results in 1914.

> So it's obvious that Turkey will look other markets and other allies. ;If west want to earn Turkey back, they should work hard. <

What for? Turkey will betray its new allies just as it has done with its old ones. One should forget about earning Turkey back as this will for sure produce more damage than beneficient effects. Instead one should recall some clauses from Peter the Great's Testament.


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