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"Europeans believe that Moslems have come to Europe just to earn money. But Allah has a different plan."

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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Nov 3, 2009 at 15:40

havas wrote :

> instead of answering one by one which is easy but can be too long, ı will give a general answer to you.<

The relation between brevity and truth is like that between the small car tank and the long road to go. If you miscalculate either of them it may happen that instaed of arriving at your destination you get stuck underway with all your passengers on board.

> No country on earth today or in the past is clean.<

The difference is that some country (e.g. Turkey) are less clean than others and that while others try to get washed some (e.g.Trurkey ) try hard to hide their filth by accumulating more filth and/or denying they are dirty at all. In less figurative terms - most countries face their bloody past , Moslem countries never do. Libraries in the respective countries are a good approximation as to who belongs to what group.

> We are only people.<

Moslems and/or criminals in general are a very special kind of people with whom I presume few reasonable people would like to have anything in common.

> What race,what culture we belong, Muslim or atheist or buddist doesnt matter. <

It does matter what sort of view we espouse. Islam is a criminal, inhuman, deceptive and irrational doctrine and following its commands leads directly to what you Turks perpetrated between 1915-1922 (and earlier) or to what your so called "prophet" did with the Jews in Medina in 627. Your crimes are ideologically-driven ones - it's jihad or gazavat.

> We are deceived and diveded by some few people who has the money and power.

Plato used to say that all problems originate in the wrong worldview. When one thinks of Islam it's amazing how right he was!

> We go into wars ,we die, we work all the time and they profit.

...while we go to paradise , have our 72 promised prostitues of Allah the pimp, drink wine which leaves no hangover , have our sadistic pleasure at the kafirs' tortures and praise Allah ... What a fine sense of life we have been imbued with !

> They make us fight with each other and hate each other.

And we just follow the Quran and the sunna. We join the Chechen bandits of Allah who preferably besiege schools, torture little girls, storm maternity wards and theatres and organize genocides which we impudently deny afterwards ...

> So ı am not blindly going to defend everything about my culture or nationality. Some of the things you say are correct. <

You are a very courageous Turk, indeed. You know what awaits the daredevil who says such a thing in public in Ataturkistan? Anyway, which things I said are incorrect ?

> But you are too much filled with anger and hatred against others.

What's wrong about hating evil ? What good is in tolerating evil?

> you see everything black and white.<

Again, which things I said are incorrect ?

> but it is not so. everything is complicated.<

Fo Turks everything is simple. The Moslem, and especially, the Turk is always right,. The Kafir is always wrong. If you don't think so Article 301 will make you change your mind. Many have seen through your 'complicated everything'.

> For example When you criticize armenian tragedy done by turks, you have to do the same for french tragedy in all africa and algeria,

I pity the brave French pieds noirs exterminated and expelled by Moslem jihad from their homes in Algeria. The massacres in Oran in 1962 belong to the worst French tragedies. The pieds noirs have been sold and betrayed by De Gaulle for his chimaera of Eurabia.

> when you blame all the turks in germany as criminals ,you need to realise that things are not as bad as before and there is an affort at least for better integration now.<

After Imam Erdogan's speech in Cologne last year this assertion looks funny. Some say Erdogan also authored the memorable saying " "Europeans believe that Moslems have come to Europe just to earn money. But Allah has a different plan." Calling it 'better integration" as coined by you is also a clever strategeme to deceive us on the nature of the Turkish aims in Europe.

> when you call islam an evil bedoin religon, do you mean that we 1,5 billion people on earth have no good cultural aspects ,that only others are perfect in everything.<

It was not me who called Islam an evil Beduin religion. It was Ghazi Mustafa Kemal Pasha Ataturk. Now will you question his wisdom and vilify him for saying the above ?

> I think people must not blindly follow any ideology, we need to try to understand the other side also.

Don't mix up "understanding" and "approving". I understand evil like Islamic jihad quite well and yet understanding evil doesn't make me prone to accept evil. How about you ?

>ı am a devout muslim.<

How can you be "a devout muslim" and a good citizen of a state whose holy founder used to say "Islam-this decaying corpse of an immoral Arab Beduin- is poisoning all of us"? Illuminate my miserable kafiri mind on that !

> but maybe we need to add more humanity to our personalities, instead of more nationalizm and more religousness.<

Strange words from someone who describes himself as "a devout muslim". I guess more Turkish deception is at work. Your master imam Erdogan once remarked " Democracy is just a train. When you arrive at your destination, you get off that train". You may replace 'democray' with 'tolerance' to get a clearer message from the imam.

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