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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Nov 26, 2009 at 04:29

dawud writes:

"..I believe all true christians will unite with muslims when the time comes as Jesus (PBUH) will correct our understandings and reveal the truth. "

So - do you expect a flesh and blood Jesus to announce himself to the world somehow ? Where will he have come from - where was he living in his flesh and blood body before he arrived? And what will the truth be?

"For me, I believe he will call to Islam on the basis that I do not accept the doctrine of the trinity "

the concept that there is a universal force behind everything, that particular humans managed to merge their consciousness with this - and that this force is inside you - is too hard for you to accept?

"and I do not accept the saccrifice of Jesus (PBUH) on the cross."

Yet you do accept that a 7th century uneducated arab with 11 wives (one a nine year old he married at 53 ), murdered people and who flew around on a 'burak' - an animal with wings and the face and breast of a woman - was a prophet?

Go figure.

If you wish to know why I can explain. I definitely suggets watching the arrivals to se how it all links in but basically speaking muslims and christians and Jews all believe in one God and his prophets "

But Christians and Jews do not believe in YOUR 'prophet'. Big difference - in fact a chasm. And the nature of the deity - when seen through the filter of Islam is totally different than the view of Christians and jews. It may as well be a desert god.

"...and the antichrist will not be propagating monotheism, the antichrist will in fact propagate ATHEISM or even claim to be God. "

Well, he can't have it both ways. Which is it?

"....Christians need to wake up and realise we are not the enemy. "

But Christians ARE the enemy in many Muslim countries. http://www.coptsunited.com/Details.php?I=28&A=240 - that's just one small example in one location. As yourealise many more examples can be found in Nigeria, Somalia, Iraq, Pakistan etc etc

"New world orders, atheism, darwinism, evolution theory, hedonism etc, these are the tools of the antichrist, not monotheistic religions."

Over time various behaviours cause suffering and inner turmoil. People feel it and have to live with themselves. many reach rock bottom yet persevere and find their way out. Give people more latitude to learn their own lessons rather than setting yourself up as a judge and criticising them. Your massive mistake is thinking they need to flock to your 'religion' as though it has any answers for them. It appears to you to have an answer for you at this stage of your life. Keep in mind that in a sense the world you see is neutral - and your mind is making most of it up. Someone once said - you see the world not as it is - but as you are.

"The fall of europe has not been because of Islam, its been because of atheism and the sooner you realise that this is the true work of the devil the better."

You speak of the 'fall' of Europe as a fait accompli. Europe hasn't fallen. You see examples of seeming and actual chaos in various location courtesy of the news media. Keep in mind that media by its nature will report on exceptions rather than the average and mundane. Which is more of a story - that there were 50,000 successful drives hme by 50,000 office workers - or the one spectacular crash that one of them might have unfortunately been involved in? Life goes on quietly in villages and small towns and cities all across Europe - from Rovaniemi to Madrid. The 'devil' is the part of the psyche that is unconscious. People are unconscious and are unaware that they are. Generally they are not aware tof their own awareness - except in that brief instant when they are asked the question 'are you aware?'.

"May the creator guide us all to the fundamental truth "

And where might that be? What's the last place you're likely to look?

"Do you really think that a bunch of backwards tribal afghans are the hordes of shaitaan? While the mighty empires of europe and america are the force for good? Does this make sense to you? "

Then put it another way - 'Do you really think that a bunch of backwards tribal afghans are the force for good? While the mighty empires of europe and america where all the latest technology and human rights developments are initiated and exceptional progress in every science and medicine and art are initiated are the hordes of shaitaan?" Does that make sense to you?

"......Do you not anticipate that Shaitaan will in fact be the one who has the power (like the romans as you mentioned)."

And what's the timetable for Islam engulfing Europe again?

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