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Le sultan est mort! Vive le sultan !

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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Oct 31, 2009 at 17:00

"Secular" Turk ,

First let me ask you if you're a Moslem? If you aren't , then you a very rare bird in Turkey indeed.

> The bottom line is that the Muslim Brotherhood, under its Turkish branch (Erdogan's AKP party), has finally managed to take over Turkey.<

Has Turkey ever in its history been not Islamic ? Turkey has just publicly confirmed it is what has always been. What's so unusual about it ? Quite the contrary, the unusual thing was that so many outside Turkey were so easily fooled into believing the contrary to the obvious fact of history and common sense. Turkish deception has worked for some time at least quite well .

> This was achieved by:

(a) Skillfully manipulating the US State Dept into a deceptive agenda called "Moderate Islam";<

Look out, "secular" Turk, what you are saying ! What you call 'deceptive agenda' is Dr. Pipes' core doctrine , his holy of holiest. In his memorable "A Million Moderate Muslims on the March" he wrote i.al. : " Recent events in Pakistan and Turkey, however, prove that moderate Muslims are no myth. [... ]In Turkey, more than a million moderate Muslims in five marches protested the bid of the Justice and Development Party (AKP) to take over the presidency of the republic, giving it control over the two top government offices [...] This resolute stand against Islamism by moderate Turkish Muslims is the more striking when contrasted with the cluelessness of Westerners who pooh-pooh the dangers of the AKP's ascent.[...]Is it not telling that great numbers of moderate Muslims see danger where so many non-Muslims are blind? Do developments in Pakistan and Turkey not confirm my oft-repeated point that radical Islam is the problem and moderate Islam the solution? And do they not suggest that ignorant non-Muslim busybodies should get out of the way of those moderate Muslims determined to relegate Islamism to its rightful place in the dustbin of history?"

"(b) Rendering powerless the Military, traditional guardians of Turkish secularism, after handcuffing them by way of a US-supported fake process called "EU Accession".

The Kemalist pashas and beys just like their historical predecessors and model the janissaries are the guardians of their own privileges first of all and only then of an abstract worldview. When these privileges are guaranteed as it seems now to be the case (that's why the Kemalist janissaries have'nt mutinied), they don't mind doing business with whomever holds the reins of political power in Ankara. They are all Moslems after all. And they rebelled thrice in Kemalist history but it didn't make their privileges safer or the country more stable. So why not try to come to terms with their Moslem brethren so popular among the believing masses ? The role of the EU or US in this internal deal for sharing privileges and power is negligible to my mind. The effects may be as you describe them but the causes are quite different.

(c) Billions of Wahhabi "green capital" flowing into the country by way of AKP-related channels.

That's true as it is true that Turks are extremely corrupt and accept money from whoever gives it. They have received money from Lenin and from Lenin's his imperialist enemies - from Americans, Germans, French, British...so why not from the guardians of the two holy Moslem shrines - the Saudis who have more to offer than anyone else ?

> As they say in Turkish: Buyrun cenaze namazina...

In France they have a different saying "Le roi est mort! Vive le roi!" ... or to adapt it a bit more to Turkish realities "Le sultan est mort! Vive le sultan !"

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