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Submitted by Plato (India), May 18, 2008 at 07:59
sTs you wrote:
>>If the rulers are not democratic, it does not mean that Islam is not. So what do you say now after I showed you now the clear proof that Islam asks us to be democratic. (Conduct their affairs in mutual consultations), (Consult them in the affairs) this is what God told us to do – DEMOCRACY<<
Your two aya say the Koran asks for consultation. The question to be asked is, is there any place in this for non-Muslims in these consultations? If no, then there is nothing more to be said, it is just a dictatorship of Muslims for Muslims and by Muslims.
If yes, then what will you do about 3:85 which says that if anyone desires any religion other than Islam it will not be accepted of him? Are you going to consult him about his choice of religion?
Regards
Plato
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| Democracy, Islam, and the way out, if there is one.... [329 words] | Denis MacEoin | Apr 17, 2008 14:12 |
| ethnocentric [131 words] | jim | Apr 17, 2008 13:18 |
| ‘Islamic-Democracy' is oxymoronic [195 words] | Oliver | Apr 17, 2008 12:53 |
| Are Muslims doomed to follow the same path? [96 words] | Solomon2 | Apr 17, 2008 12:50 |
| Islam and Democracy [179 words] | OldBlue64 | Apr 17, 2008 12:03 |
| Heartening Disheartening History [209 words] | David Sabghir | Apr 17, 2008 12:00 |
| Defining "Islamic Democracy" [139 words] | Mike Ramirez | Apr 17, 2008 12:00 |
| anxious times for Turkey [448 words] | trans-parere | Apr 17, 2008 11:45 |
| Muslims receive no benefits from the government [70 words] | Lars Nielsen | Apr 17, 2008 10:41 |
| You're killing me [216 words] | K.H. Ahmed | Apr 17, 2008 10:04 |
| ↔ not necessarily [199 words] | mz ravin black | Apr 17, 2008 23:20 |
| Democracy and Islam are inherently incompatible [307 words] | David Campbell | Apr 17, 2008 09:47 |
| ↔ Lybian piracy [66 words] | Marie-Claude | Apr 17, 2008 17:08 |
| ↔ Newsweek and the Barbary Pirates - Islam and Democracy revisted [239 words] | David Campbell | Apr 23, 2008 16:33 |
| ↔ Mr Campbell [64 words] | Marie Claude | Apr 23, 2008 18:24 |
| ↔ "Tradition of Piracy"? Sorry, Marie-Claude, that won't cut it [133 words] | jennifer solis | Apr 24, 2008 05:01 |
| ↔ is that a proof ? [24 words] | Marie-Claude | Apr 24, 2008 17:25 |
| A complex issue [1008 words] | Amitabh Tripathi | Apr 17, 2008 09:42 |
| ↔ You've touched to the core of the issue [347 words] | Bob Jenks | Apr 18, 2008 10:38 |
| western civilization never allows anything grows parallel to capitalism [260 words] | syed muhammad ali | Apr 17, 2008 09:22 |
| A Democratic Islam [60 words] | Phillip | Apr 17, 2008 09:21 |
| A clear and succinct summary of the situation - thank you so much [151 words] | Bob Jenks | Apr 17, 2008 08:57 |
| I suppose... [26 words] | Doug Corrigan | Apr 17, 2008 08:55 |
| "the family" [564 words] | German Observer | Apr 17, 2008 08:52 |
| Islam, the missing links [32 words] | Marie Claude | Apr 17, 2008 07:49 |
| To Daniel Pipes: Religion of Democracy is not more 'Just' than Religion of Islam [291 words] | Syed Rafey Husain | Apr 17, 2008 06:43 |
| ↔ HUSSAIN YOUR STATEMENTS [575 words] | S.Mirza | Apr 19, 2008 02:38 |
| ↔ Gotta luv Daniel Pipes [59 words] | jennifer solis | Apr 24, 2008 05:38 |
| ↔ Syed Raffey: More about women and slaves in Islam [381 words] | Plato | May 2, 2008 00:10 |
| ↔ Liberal democracy is not a religion, neither is "real" Islam: both are political philosophies [192 words] | Wedhimmissubmitwillingly | Oct 3, 2008 19:43 |
| ↔ To Wedhim: Liberal democracy, if it does not teaches that one day you will die then it is false in its very essence [85 words] | Syed Rafey Husain | Oct 7, 2008 03:22 |
| ↔ Islam doesn't work as a political philosophy [302 words] | Wedhimmissubmitwillingly | Oct 8, 2008 12:52 |
| Democracy & Islam [212 words] | Ian Campbell | Apr 17, 2008 05:56 |
| U.S. STATE DEPT GETS IT ALL WRONG ON TURKEY AND ITS EU MEMBERSHIP [757 words] | G. Marcus | Apr 17, 2008 05:46 |
| No Muslims No Terrorists [297 words] | Alain Jean-Mairet | Apr 17, 2008 05:45 |
| ↔ Alain has it right! [29 words] | Doug Corrigan | Apr 24, 2008 11:05 |
| ↔ wrong [19 words] | marie-Claude | Apr 25, 2008 16:59 |
| ↔ Don't you forget the Care Bears [12 words] | Alain Jean-Mairet | Apr 26, 2008 06:41 |
| A Democratic Islam? [96 words] | Ilbert Phillips | Apr 17, 2008 05:20 |
| Democracy and Islam [735 words] | Erich Wieger | Apr 17, 2008 05:07 |
| close, but a bit off-mark [218 words] | Taj | Apr 17, 2008 04:43 |
| ↔ Taj: Is Allah being just presumptuous in 9:111? [324 words] | Plato | May 2, 2008 00:17 |
| ↔ yesterdays hand was brushed aside [319 words] | trans-parere | May 3, 2008 21:34 |
| ↔ a bit about jails [110 words] | Taj | May 5, 2008 20:31 |
| ↔ all decisions are of great consequence [611 words] | trans-parere | May 6, 2008 18:59 |
| ↔ Allah is never presumptuous [203 words] | Taj | May 16, 2008 14:40 |
| ↔ pattern of behavior [141 words] | Taj | May 17, 2008 04:45 |
| ↔ yes, the individuals patern of behavior not their skin colour. [725 words] | trans-parere | May 17, 2008 21:59 |
| ↔ Taj: Not really? Really? [625 words] | Plato | May 18, 2008 08:38 |
| ↔ Yup, really... Plato [677 words] | Taj | Jun 1, 2008 19:43 |
| ↔ Taj: The Prophet's last sermon made Muslim women domestic animals/prisoners of men [999 words] | Plato | Jun 18, 2008 04:22 |
| ↔ not hardly... [516 words] | Taj | Jun 22, 2008 01:14 |
| ↔ Taj: An expected response. But why does Allah and his apostle allow women to be beaten? [1293 words] | Plato | Jun 26, 2008 04:51 |
| Point well taken. [14 words] | jennifer solis | Apr 17, 2008 03:21 |
| ↔ Veil for all [309 words] | Thiagan | Apr 28, 2008 08:21 |
| ↔ "Head covering" in the Bible [249 words] | jennifer solis | Apr 28, 2008 17:16 |
| ↔ addendum [35 words] | True Believer | May 5, 2008 07:15 |
| establishment clause [35 words] | Francesco Mangascià | Apr 17, 2008 02:42 |
| ↔ Silk purse [46 words] | Roger Warner | Apr 20, 2008 07:29 |
| ↔ Silk purse and Vatican [136 words] | Francesco Mangascià | Apr 21, 2008 03:23 |
| Democracy and Islam [388 words] | Carl Goldberg | Apr 17, 2008 01:58 |
| ↔ lost honour [128 words] | leo solomon | Apr 17, 2008 17:39 |
| ↔ Democratic Islam is impossible ! [37 words] | Anne-Marie Delcambre | Apr 19, 2008 01:26 |
| ↔ Islamic democracy [87 words] | joe | May 18, 2008 07:28 |