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The strange case of our dear Mohammed and he does not really know what the Qur'an really says and another victim of Arabian imperilialism

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), May 27, 2008 at 07:07

I just do not get it about this preoccupation of Muslims with sex and drinking so do you want to talk about it our dear Mohammed? How about this cutting of trees thing?

Then our dear Mohammed wrote:

>many people target islam only by saying that muslims are violent people

Well all you need to do is to examine the violent history of Islam

>and even the quran says to kill the non-muslims wherever they find them,

So you agree that the Qur'an is violent? Should I tell the authorities in Saudi Arabia that our dear Mohammed is saying that the Qur'an is violent?They will kick you out of the country and you will be back in the Islamic paradise of Pakiland.

>but they fail to mention the quotes from then quran which says so.the verse in the quran which says "kill the non-muslims wherever you find them" is in chapter number 9 verse 7,

So is this what it says that in Qur'an 9:7 a book that you cannot read in Arabic? And are you confusing this little gem with ayat al-sayf?And no I do not translate Arabic for wannabe Arabs like you

>but often people quote only this verse number seven because in the preceeding verses they find the answer to their allegation, the verse was revealed to prophet mohammed(pbuh) in the battle ground and allah says in chapter 9 verses 1-7 that do not fear fight for the security of you and your families.

So where does it say that?


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2Dream on our dear Mansoor [430 words]dhimmi no moreApr 23, 2008 13:32125993
1caliphate means what? [233 words]G.VishvasMay 10, 2008 10:40125993
Fundamental Issue [48 words]Mark GApr 17, 2008 14:20125992
Democracy, Islam, and the way out, if there is one.... [329 words]Denis MacEoinApr 17, 2008 14:12125989
ethnocentric [131 words]jimApr 17, 2008 13:18125986
‘Islamic-Democracy' is oxymoronic [195 words]OliverApr 17, 2008 12:53125985
Are Muslims doomed to follow the same path? [96 words]Solomon2Apr 17, 2008 12:50125984
Islam and Democracy [179 words]OldBlue64Apr 17, 2008 12:03125980
Heartening Disheartening History [209 words]David SabghirApr 17, 2008 12:00125979
Defining "Islamic Democracy" [139 words]Mike RamirezApr 17, 2008 12:00125978
anxious times for Turkey [448 words]trans-parereApr 17, 2008 11:45125977
Muslims receive no benefits from the government [70 words]Lars NielsenApr 17, 2008 10:41125973
You're killing me [216 words]K.H. AhmedApr 17, 2008 10:04125969
not necessarily [199 words]mz ravin blackApr 17, 2008 23:20125969
Democracy and Islam are inherently incompatible [307 words]David CampbellApr 17, 2008 09:47125967
Lybian piracy [66 words]Marie-ClaudeApr 17, 2008 17:08125967
Newsweek and the Barbary Pirates - Islam and Democracy revisted [239 words]David CampbellApr 23, 2008 16:33125967
Mr Campbell [64 words]Marie ClaudeApr 23, 2008 18:24125967
"Tradition of Piracy"? Sorry, Marie-Claude, that won't cut it [133 words]jennifer solisApr 24, 2008 05:01125967
is that a proof ? [24 words]Marie-ClaudeApr 24, 2008 17:25125967
A complex issue [1008 words]Amitabh TripathiApr 17, 2008 09:42125966
You've touched to the core of the issue [347 words]Bob JenksApr 18, 2008 10:38125966
western civilization never allows anything grows parallel to capitalism [260 words]syed muhammad aliApr 17, 2008 09:22125965
A Democratic Islam [60 words]PhillipApr 17, 2008 09:21125964
A clear and succinct summary of the situation - thank you so much [151 words]Bob JenksApr 17, 2008 08:57125962
I suppose... [26 words]Doug CorriganApr 17, 2008 08:55125961
"the family" [564 words]German ObserverApr 17, 2008 08:52125960
Islam, the missing links [32 words]Marie ClaudeApr 17, 2008 07:49125956
To Daniel Pipes: Religion of Democracy is not more 'Just' than Religion of Islam [291 words]Syed Rafey HusainApr 17, 2008 06:43125952
HUSSAIN YOUR STATEMENTS [575 words]S.MirzaApr 19, 2008 02:38125952
Gotta luv Daniel Pipes [59 words]jennifer solisApr 24, 2008 05:38125952
Syed Raffey: More about women and slaves in Islam [381 words]PlatoMay 2, 2008 00:10125952
Liberal democracy is not a religion, neither is "real" Islam: both are political philosophies [192 words]WedhimmissubmitwillinglyOct 3, 2008 19:43125952
To Wedhim: Liberal democracy, if it does not teaches that one day you will die then it is false in its very essence [85 words]Syed Rafey HusainOct 7, 2008 03:22125952
Islam doesn't work as a political philosophy [302 words]WedhimmissubmitwillinglyOct 8, 2008 12:52125952
Democracy & Islam [212 words]Ian CampbellApr 17, 2008 05:56125948
U.S. STATE DEPT GETS IT ALL WRONG ON TURKEY AND ITS EU MEMBERSHIP [757 words]G. MarcusApr 17, 2008 05:46125947
No Muslims No Terrorists [297 words]Alain Jean-MairetApr 17, 2008 05:45125946
Alain has it right! [29 words]Doug CorriganApr 24, 2008 11:05125946
wrong [19 words]marie-ClaudeApr 25, 2008 16:59125946
Don't you forget the Care Bears [12 words]Alain Jean-MairetApr 26, 2008 06:41125946
A Democratic Islam? [96 words]Ilbert PhillipsApr 17, 2008 05:20125926
Democracy and Islam [735 words]Erich WiegerApr 17, 2008 05:07125924
close, but a bit off-mark [218 words]TajApr 17, 2008 04:43125921
Taj: Is Allah being just presumptuous in 9:111? [324 words]PlatoMay 2, 2008 00:17125921
yesterdays hand was brushed aside [319 words]trans-parereMay 3, 2008 21:34125921
a bit about jails [110 words]TajMay 5, 2008 20:31125921
all decisions are of great consequence [611 words]trans-parereMay 6, 2008 18:59125921
Allah is never presumptuous [203 words]TajMay 16, 2008 14:40125921
pattern of behavior [141 words]TajMay 17, 2008 04:45125921
yes, the individuals patern of behavior not their skin colour. [725 words]trans-parereMay 17, 2008 21:59125921
Taj: Not really? Really? [625 words]PlatoMay 18, 2008 08:38125921
Yup, really... Plato [677 words]TajJun 1, 2008 19:43125921
1Taj: The Prophet's last sermon made Muslim women domestic animals/prisoners of men [999 words]PlatoJun 18, 2008 04:22125921
not hardly... [516 words]TajJun 22, 2008 01:14125921
3Taj: An expected response. But why does Allah and his apostle allow women to be beaten? [1293 words]PlatoJun 26, 2008 04:51125921
Point well taken. [14 words]jennifer solisApr 17, 2008 03:21125910
Veil for all [309 words]ThiaganApr 28, 2008 08:21125910
"Head covering" in the Bible [249 words]jennifer solisApr 28, 2008 17:16125910
addendum [35 words]True BelieverMay 5, 2008 07:15125910
establishment clause [35 words]Francesco MangasciàApr 17, 2008 02:42125907
Silk purse [46 words]Roger WarnerApr 20, 2008 07:29125907
Silk purse and Vatican [136 words]Francesco MangasciàApr 21, 2008 03:23125907
Democracy and Islam [388 words]Carl GoldbergApr 17, 2008 01:58125904
lost honour [128 words]leo solomonApr 17, 2008 17:39125904
Democratic Islam is impossible ! [37 words]Anne-Marie DelcambreApr 19, 2008 01:26125904
Islamic democracy [87 words]joeMay 18, 2008 07:28125904

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