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Our dear mansoor says that the caliphate was a "smooth system"! Really?

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Apr 18, 2008 at 08:03

Our dear mansoor wrote

>Islamic Governing systems, specially Caliphate era, can be considered a smooth system

ROTFL Are you out of your mind as usual? well let me see the first four khalifas were

1. Abu Bakr the so called al-sadiq

2. Omar the so called al-farooq or the redeemer and that is a good one

3. Uthman and his bogus Uthmanic recension

4. Ali and his Fatima

And three of them were killed!

Killed our dear Mansoor al-tablighee by other Arabs. And let me guess why? They wanted more share of the loot! What do you think? So much for the "smooth system"

And there was no Qur'an and no books of law and no books of Fiqh or hadith or sira the foundation of Islamic law. So how can you have a smooth system when you have no foundation for such system?

Oh I forgot and during such period (from 632CE to 661CE) Muslims were fighting and destroying the great empires of the late antique period and enslaving infidels and collecting the mafia tax known as: jizya 3an yad and collecting the loot and sending 1/5 of it to Allah and his rasul. I just wonder how did they get the loot to Allah and his rasul?

There were famines in the Hijaz and without the infidles and without food from Egypt that was sent there (via the Trajan canal and on to the red sea) more Muslims in the Hijaz would have died

So much for a sooth system.

But this is not all: Muslims were fighting each other. And at the end Mu3awiyya and the Umayyads destroyed such evil system and killed Ali

And do you know why fanatical Muslims did not like the Umayyads? Let me help you: The Umayyads liked to have a good time and drink wine and party and have dancing girls and have dogs and never wanted to go back to backward Mecca and opted to stay in Syria with its wines and great climate and good food and great looking women

How come you did not know that?

>when it comes to individual calm and satisfaction and smooth running of social system. There are lot of examples of the level of happiness, security and abundance of wealth enjoyed by the countries of that era.

Yes and to paraphrase what you wrote: "there are lots of examples of levels of happiness security and abundance" but the Caliphate is not one of them except in the minds of lost people like you. You are but another victim of Islam

But this is not all: Next on the agenda of Islamic imperialism was your ancestors the Hindus that were brutalized by Muslims and Islam. Shame

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