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Our dear Hassan and the gift of the Hellenes aka the Greek pagans

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in response to reader comment: In the first link it reveals that "dhimmi no more" is poor in reasoning!

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Apr 18, 2007 at 17:21

So in typical Muslim fashion our dear Hassan tells us that the Greek learning was translated by the Arabs which as was pointed out to him is a bogus claim. It was Nestorians that translated the great works of, as he calls them, the pagans or as I like to call them the Hellenes. When he realized that he has no clue he came back and told us that those that translated the works at least were not Catholics! What he does not know is that the Christians in the 9th cenutry Middle East were Jacobites/Monophysites, Nestorians and Melkites. Catholics? No so his wish here is also bogus. Then he babbles about some Arabic sounding names but most of them were either Mesopotamians or Persians as the Arabs had no like for culture or learning or Hellenes' falsafa wa tafkir 3aqli.

Now most damaging to his case is that the works of the Greeks was translated by Jews in Spain to Catalan and then by Catholics (gasp!) to Latin and then more recently we have the reconstruction of such work based on the translations by the real genius Hunein ibn ishaq and here is an example of the transmission of one Greek work and in this case it is Ptolemy's "Tetrabiblos" and any one who is interested you can find a copy in Greek on one page and English on the opposite page and look for page xiv where the author traces the transmission of such great work and I quote:

"The oldest (copy) of them is the Arabian version by Hunein Ibn Ishaq made in the 9th century. Thence in turn Plato Tiburtinus in 1138 CE and Aegiduis de Thebaldis in the middle of the 13th century made Latin translations which were the chief means Western Europe knew the Tetrabiblos up to the time of the first edition of the Greek text......More important are the Latin translations made directly from Greek...."

And the rest of the page tells us about more information about the text as we have it. But notice that in this case translations from Greek to Latin were indeed made by Camerarius

I do not see any Muslim or arabic sounding names there.

And guess where is the Arabic copy stored by the Nestorian Hunein? It is stored in Italy at the Laurentian library in florence. Oh those Catholics again!

But again you are here hoping to spread the religion and the imperialsim of the Arabs and you ain't one, and more likely than not your Hindu ancestors were brutlaized by Islam. Shame

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