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More Bogus Arabic from our dear Zzazz and his credibility is on the line and Allahuma!

Reader comment on item: Is Allah God? - Continued
in response to reader comment: It is actually the definite, not plural form

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Feb 16, 2008 at 09:22

Our dear Zzazz wrote the ultimate gem

>Actually, the word "Allah" is the DEFINITE form of "ilah".

What on earth is "the definite" form of the word: Ilah? Enlighten ya ayuha al-falyasoof al-kabeer!

For the readers may be a bit of Arabic will help here:

The word God in Arabic could be (and notice the absence of the definite article al):

1. Allah

2. Ilah and the plural here is Aliha

3. Rabb (and this word does not mean Lord. The Arabic word for Lord is Sayyid and in Christian Arabic we have: al-Sayyid Yasoo3 al-Maseeh or Lord Jesus Christ. The plural here is Arbab (see HW page 320A)

Now our dear Zzazz you explain to us:

1. How come Arabs still use the word al-Ilah and why did it not disappear?

2. And speaking of contraction: In the word al-Rabb the lam following the alif is not vocalized as it is contracted, but we still write the word as al-Rabb and not A-Rrabb?

3. And where on earth is the contraction in the word al-Ilah/Allah?

Now notice that Pakistanis and the likes of our dear Zzazz have no clue about the so called "al al-ta3reef" or the Arabic language definite article: al- which in English would be: THE.

Now the word THE GOD in Arabic could be:

1. al-Ilah

2. al-Rabb (vocalized as A-Rrabb as the lam here is lam shamsiya) and no al-Rabb does not mean the Lord

Notice that what is absent here is the word Allah because the word Allah means: God and not the God

>al-ilah is elided together to become Allah, meaning 'the God".

Bogus. If you are correct then provide us with your evidence from

1. Qawamees wa ma3ajim al-lughat al-3Arabiya

2. Analysis of the word Allah from the Muslim Masora (may be you can ask your ignorant Mullah if he knows Arabic to tell you what is really the Muslim masora) and in particular Qamoos Lisan al-3Arab

The following will not be regarded as evidence:

1. wikipedia

2. Tendentious Muslim web sites by Pakistanis and tablighees.

>The plural form is "allahuma", which is very similar to the Hebrew "Elohim".

May be this is the gem of all times.

The word Allahuma is the plural form of al-Ilah contrcated as: Allah? Are you for real?

The plural of the word al-Ilah is: al-Aliha

As for the word Allahuma it means: O God! and for this see Hans Wehr dictionary page 24B and as far as I know it has nothing in common with the word Elohim. Your claim is bogus

I really came to the conclusion that if you really speak and read Arabic then you must have flunked your Arabic nahw wa qawa3id or you are another wannabe Arab (Pakistani most likely) that knows no Arabic but have the guts to debate an issue in a language that he does not know. And for this I say shame.

Now you put up or shut up


1. al al-ta3reef see John Wortabet Arabic dictionary page 376A

2. For the root ALH see Hans Wehr dictionary page 24A

3. For the word Allah, Ilah, al-Ilah see ibid 2

4. For the word rabb see HW page 320A


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