@ Waste of time

Submitted by susie (United Kingdom), Jul 8, 2013 at 09:05

Dear Syk,

I have had something very similar happen to me, only that it lasted for 7 (!!!) years and there was nobody to tell me that I was being fooled. The bastard was an Algerian guy who appeared very modern, open-minded, flexible, progressive-thinking and all the bla bla bla up until we got really to the point that we had to get married and it was time for him to come over to me. I live in Europe, he has visited me twice, the rest of the time we were meeting in Tunisia. He could practically say anything he wanted, paint any kind of image of himself as there was no way I could find it out. It is a long story, if you would like to read the full story here it is, I posted this as a response to Becca some months ago, I hope it explains things and it helps you understand that these men can waste as much of your time as they are not ashamed of becuase they can ALWAYS turn around ( even at the age of 60) , grow their beards, put the hypocrit holy repentful look upon their faces and marry a young virgin girl from their villages who is all innocent and knows nothing about them. Actually this is the example their prophet has set in forn of them. How and why do we expect decent and moral behaviour of people who follow a prophet who had actually very low moral standards.

MY STORY:

I am going to answer you in a very short an concise manner: he is PLAYING. If you had the chance to visit him in his own village, or town you would be SHOCKED to see under what primitive circumstances these people live and how they spend their days doing NOTHING. I have been in Algeria and have seen it with my own eyes. If you have the time you can read on for my story as I feel today that after many years of silence about my past miseries it is time to wirte down my story about the irreversible scars and damages that these guys can cause.

Please read carefully and try to understand: Western women have NO FUTURE with these men. It takes a totally submissive, weak, self-sacrificing, identity-crisised woman to ever please these men. And in the end they will still throw in your face the most unexpected insults, such as: "you are no more than a European slut" , "you were not a virgin when I met you"... and so much more.

Of course they can hold hours of lectures about how enlightened and modern they are, and that the old virginity-focused traditional behaviour is so far from them... bla bla bla... in the end they WILL marry a virgin arab girl because it is a question of prestige to them. No matter how much they actually may love you. No matter how much you FEEL that they DO love you... these men they condemn you deep down and can not break up with the thought that you are DIRTY, you were " consumed", "used" before they touched you, thus to their standards you remain no more than a whore. And of course nobody can forbid a man to fall in love with a "whore" but expect the results and the outcome to be just as radical and dramatic and painful as if it actually WAS true that he is in love with a whore. As a western man would probably struggle with his love and despise against that woman, you can not imagine what kind of insane double games are going through the minds of these guys. And they ALWAYS lie, whether it is necessary or not.

Be aware that Islam as a religion does regard the deception and mistreating of non-believers as a virtue and not as a shame. There is nothing wrong with deception, abuse, mistreat and lying as long as it is conducted against NON muslims, and DO NEVER be mislead by their sweet words as they try to talk nicely and respectfully about Christianity and try to convince you of the similarities of the two religions. There is nothing to do with Christians and Muslims living in peace. Nothing. He may tell you that the Quran permits marriage with a Christian woman as you are "people from the book" well be aware that the same Quran calls Christians and Jews Pigs and Apes!!!! Any idea why??? Becuase this religion is INVENTED by ...murderer who is responsible for the death of hundreds of people that he murdered along with his people. Yes Mohammed DID participate in killing. He did say that honor killing or killing of the infidels is RIGHT. And he did have sex with a 9 year old girl named Aisha.

Now take a look at Jesus. Did he kill anyone? Did he marry anyone? Did he give detailed accounts about how many physical pleasures he found in women?

Now ask yourself: do you really want to be part of such a culture??? I have been to Algeria, and I have seen how women are treated there. Do you know what kind of life women live there?

I have once witnessed the "honeymoons" af an Algerian couple in Tunisia where we were on holiday with my Algerian ex. The man practically RAPED his wife so violently on their first night that he broke her cervix and she was bleeding so severely that they had to take her to hospital by ambulance from the hotel. I can not forget her face. And the bastard husband of her was not ashamed to complain to my ex about how unlucky he is becuase now he can not have sex with her for the rest of their holidays and he was sitting there feeling PITY for HIMSELF and not worrying for a second about his wife.

My story dates back to 2004 when I was an open-minded and hearted 19 year old universtiy student and I blindly believed in the goodness of humanity and the possible peaceful cooperation and mixing of different cultural groups. Lets say I was an idealist and a multiculturalist. At the University where I studied I met a lot of students from different Middle-Eastern and North African countries and slowly the killed my idealism and my belief in their good intentions and so called peace loving religion.

I met my Algerian "garbage" sorry but they do not deserve to be called men, in Tunisia while I was working in a hotel as a receptionist. It was a summer job for me and I wanted to wirk there becuase the country made a very good impression on me in 2003. In 2004 I spent 2 months in Hammamet Yasmine living in a hotel and working as a receptionist and that is when I met that piece of nothing of a beast.

He was incredibly resistant and stuck to me like glue. A long emailing and skype chatting strarted for 5 months and he got me back in January 2005. I was in 2nd year of Universtiy and was not willing to give up on my studies to become a wife. He tried to convince me to move to Algeria and live with him. Thank God I did not accept it, and I had enough common sense to put my studies first.

In Algeria women do not have any possibilities of entertainment. NOTHING. They can not leave their houses without a male guardian and men certainly to leave without their wives and sit in cafes until late night chatting and playing cards with men. Dare to say something, you will be called names and even beaten. Not me though, I am much more of a tough woman for any man to dare to touch me, but I have seen some weaker and more quiet girls being trated incredibly unfairly.

I struggled in that relationship from 2004 August till 2005 November whereby I decided that I have had enough. After 1,5 year of struggling and living on mere promises, meeting him once in 5 months so altogether 3 times, I broke up with him when he called me a slut. Then I had enough and said bye.

There was a long 2 year period of silence, I had another relationship, and time went by. In 2007 October he suddenly turns up again with an sms asking how I am and how my life is going. Stupid me, having no idea about their tactics and techniques, I replied. A long conversation on the phone followed for at least 4 hours. A lot of sweet talking, taking back memories, calling me the greatest love of his life, and Angel, a real princess.... he told me that I am the most pure, noble, intelligent, educated woman she ever met, that I was full of love and humanity and gentleness, and he always longed for that unique kindness that I gave.... From this distance I know... it was blablabla bla bla bla. He convinced me to return to him " in a long distance relationship" and the suffering started again.

I put an end to it again in 2007 february or march as I could not take the suffering that all the waiting and empty promises caused. I sent him away with a very big heartache as I was still sure back then that he is my other half. In 2010 he was back again, all fresh and new, with a GREAT DECISION THAT HE WANTS TO MARRY ME. He was so determined and confident about it all that he swept me off my feet. This time he came up with ready plans, he will come and live in Europe for me ( he was pretty wealthy in Algeria) and he was about to make a new start. By then I was 25 he was 39. I said OK. There started the last scene of the show. I gave him 1 year to finish up his business there, make enough money and come over to Europe. He swore to me that he woulod fly over every 2 months as he has a business visa so for him entry to Europe was never an issue. He could travel back and forth as he wanted.

He lied of course, I saw him in 2010 march and then in August!!! That is somehow not 2 months. Then I came home in August and he was supposed to come in September for a visit, of course he only said that to make me shut up and stop nagging him. September passed by, October too and he was nowhere. Of course he was never short of excuses. THESE GUYS HAVE EXPLANATIONS for everything. He lied that he could not come over becuase he needs to wait for a customer from Italy who comes in the end of October. Then it was postponed to November, then his visa expired. November went by and since August I had been alone, but he did not seem to miss me as bad as I missed him. Sure... he relieved himself with some local prostitutes in some night clubs in Algiers. So he showed up in 2010 december. Then again months passed, he prmosed to come to me for good in 2011 april. He did not. I went to Algeria fro a 4 day visit with 5 friends of mine....

Ohhh my God. It was a DISASTER. Thank God I made that trip before getting married. The treatment was so disrespectful and so CHEAP that I can not describe it. I made up my mind then and threw it all in his face. I just confronted him with all the lies and the pink picture he painted about his country and the sharp contrast between his stories and the reality.

He did not try to deffend himself this time. He knew it was over. I saw the signs, I discovered his ways, he was naked in front of me. I threw him out and never turned back again to him. He cursed me for some time in sms but I blocked him EVERYWHERE and moved on. In 2012 february he called me from an unknown number. I dicovered it was him and sent him straigh to hell. Since then he does not disturb me, however he leaves slimy and ass-licking comments on my mothers profile on Facebook.

These men are all EXTREMELY talented psychologists, they are the greatest actors and manipulators of our age. My old scammers could easily create the impression of a wealthy, well-educated gentleman with absolutely serious intentions. He could convince my parents of this. My parents are quite experinced and critical people but even they believed him He was coming in and out of my life for a total of 7 years. The story ended with me going for a visit to Algeria and seeing where he comes from. I was disillusioned of the lies and the barbarity that I discovered and broke up my engagement with him ine month before we were supposed to marry.

As an example of how they disrespect us: one day when he was in my flat here in Europe, we were sleeping in one room with my mother for one night ( we had only one room in that apartment) and he wanted to make love to me!!! That is all about respect. In islam this is such a huge disrespect that I should have known in that very moment that he is a real dangerous beast, a bastard. In Algeria he can not even hold your hand in front of his mother. But here he behaves as if we were all grown in some brothels.

What can I say... I am disgusted. If you have any respect for your emotional and physical well-being, forget this guy and all muslim men and stay as far away from them as possible.

They have no respect or tolerance for western culture. Islam is not compatible with western cultures ot Judeo-Christian values. It is DESIGNED TO BE INCOMPATIBLE with anything but their own insane wievs.

Take a look at some articles discussing this topic. Learn about the Quran and what it teaches and allows to muslims. Watch the short film " Fitna" on youtube. This is not extremism. Islam has NO MODERATE form. Islam is not tolerant with any other religions. There is no such thing as modern and moderate muslims. Islam is the LAW of muslim countries. It is the base of their culture and inseparable from everyday matters, such as education, law, family matters, health care, life conduct. In most muslim countries there is no secularization and religion and politics are ONE. And we are simply not compatible with them. I tried tens of times with different muslim men to prove the opposit. It is not possible. They are not for us!

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