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In Original Form or In Retranslation - How Does One Determine If Quran is 'Kitab Mubeen?'

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Submitted by M Tovey (United States), Nov 9, 2021 at 11:25

DNM: Permit an inquiry to your inquiry:
How many times has one of the history's intellectual inquisitors approached the conundrum that is the Quran and found in that search, there is no real path to its innermost thought processes; than even in the apparent intellect of al-Tabari (and many of his predecessors, contemporaries and successors unto this day) is/are they unable to 'crack the code' that had (and continues to this day) drive uncounted adherents and other malefactors to an obsessive pursuit of domination in a world that has so many conflicted minds and competing obsessions of self and self-destruction one cannot help but cry to Heaven and petition for it to stop. Let us ask the follow-up question: if the 'kitab mubeen' label cannot be applied to the precepts of the Quran, then why did al-Tabari think it was worth the effort when in the final analysis, its flaws could only lead to a worsening conditioning of humanity?
Further, for this observer, what was the driving component that even after the initial pronouncements by the original Arabic prophet's beginnings, it took a non-Arab to study the foreign language of its now gone 'author' in order to organize it into a lingua franca for the Middle East and set its concepts as a tool to reframe the world into the modern religious battle ground we see today, targeting the Judeo-Christian basis of the love of God as found in the Old and New Testaments of the day; and today.
If the kitab Mubeen attribution is not valid, what is its witness and value if it cannot be trusted in its translation?

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