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My experience with the Moroccan Man

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Submitted by Relieved " X " (Jordan), Apr 28, 2012 at 08:19

I decided to write my story to celebrate one year of freedom and happiness following a four year relationship with a scamming con-man !!

During a months tour in Morocco (2007) I met what would seem to be "charming Moroccan man " , a waiter in a well known rooftop terrace bar in Essaouira (Morocco), walking me to my hotel and requested my tel number , offering me assistance ıe general information , translation etc , from that day the text messages started , pls meet me in cafe , how God had brought me into his life ,we were specially chosen to be together , he even travelled to Agadir and Marrakech during that month just to meet me on his Sunday off from work , brought me some handcrafted gifts.. so , so charming ! finally pleading for me to pls return to Morocco as we were so meant to be together which I dıd several tımes within the following six month period , I stayed approx a month at a time with him in not too glamorous back street apartments as you cannot stay in a reputable hotel with a local man if you are not married to him

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He talked about marriage immediately as he advised ıt would be necessary if we wanted to be together in Morocco , he made it quite clear that he didn't really want to leave his country and as salaries were so little we would need to have our own business ıe small hotel or restaurant etc if we wanted to have good life style , so we viewed many properties etc for commercial and residential purposes....but you would think if someone was offering a "business partnership " that they would have substantial amount of money to contribute , but not in this case !!!

I agreed to look into the prospect of marriage and that meant I should be introduced to the family(I was now termed as his chosen one ) , family seemed to be very nice , his mother never failed to mention marriage and on one occasion thrust a dress into my hands .. he advised me she wanted me to wear this on our wedding day and that I should be considering to do it very soon !!! He bought rings when I was not with him "gold one for me , with his initials heavily engraved on the surface to show who owned this woman and a silver band for himself ( it would seem that I had now become the fiance )

At this point I searched the web for information on marrying a Moroccan and LUCKILY found this site ,began to read in amazement how many similarities there were to my already current situation. marriage was immediately put on HOLD for me, I had been married before so was not in any rush to do it again J but I was pretty intrigued and wanted to see what would transpire

Our relationship continued and during that time my company expanded into the the Middle East , so I was living mostly in Turkey(Istanbul) but travelling extensively for business , staying at company accommodations in Egypt, Jordan and Morocco , first 1 year he remained in Morocco , communicating daily by internet & phone , I visited Morocco frequently, finally he gave up his job to live & travel with me , it was a rocky relationship at the beginning as we were so very different by nationality , culture , religion and age…we certainly had our problems especially when I found my new PC loaded with sickening pornography…as Blueisis already commented on her post " they practice what they learn by viewing this material "' unfortunately !!!!

During this four year period , I paıd for all his travel , food , clothes , English lessons (to enable him to communıcate with our guests when we set up our hotel or restaurant etc) renting cars in Morocco so he could learn to drive ( of course he had an accident which lead to me paying police, lawyers fees etc ) buying gifts for the family every time he went back to Morocco was termed necessary as they thought he was actually earning money ( lies) so he also asked for money to give his family, this is tradition in the Moroccan family whether you are working or not !! take note !!

We took frequent vacations together in Morocco & South Turkey where I rented Villas etc .. luxury life that never cost him a penny… but he never really appreciated this or even enjoyed it so much as his goals set wasn't to just enjoy the present luxury life , he had to fulfill his family's dreams of him becoming the successfully married businessman , he even discussed the prospect of having a business in Southern Turkey to make sure all possible options were offered ..

May 2011 we returned to Morocco together , there was a distant silence between us on that trip … I went to Casablanca for business purpose and he went to Essaouira to his family , he took a short vacation to his favourite small village " Imssouan " with his younger brother(even though he has no money) , he still contacted daily over the next coming week and actually asked if I could pay for the hotel they were staying with my credit card , unbelievable !!! …I declined of course :)

Then came the phone call I had been waiting , he was upset , said he didn't want that we split but his family and friends demanded he finish with me and find someone who would marry him and provide the stable future , I agreed that we should finish for the obvious reasons being that I really did know why he was with me now and as the relationship had been a scam anyway , but I totally resented that the family and friends were making that decision , again it made me very aware of what power the family had over him and that is really worth considering as family and friends come first before the wives. I also would never live in Morocco as luckily I had been able to spend significant periods there in Essaouira , Casablanca ,Mohammadia & Tangier over thıs four year period and had gained very good insight into the culture , religion , the lifestyle of the people , the tasks we faced as a company while working with the locals, the language etc , , I generally found it a very difficult country and culture for many different reasons . I witnessed the dangers and he himself had got into fight on one occasion protecting me from cheap insults

Long story short , It was over and I never contacted him again unless to try and retrieve my Lap top , I.Pad & Phone but he would call me , crying that he loved me and could not be without me why I didn't call him .. he said his family would let us continue the relationship without the marriage if they could see something more positive for his future ie home or commercial property being bought , he pleaded and begged with me to consider more , he was willing to make compromises and would accept a few thousand Euros to make a small business(sandwich bar in his favourite small village ) , this would make everyone happy and we could still be together , blaming his family and friends for making decisions that he had to stand by but this was so unbelievable what I was hearing that I actually opened the speaker on my phone and let my British colleague listen , she had worked in Morocco for 12 years and was not the least bit surprised J

Being the " X " was very ınteresting !! yes , a few weeks later he called me (surprise, surprise ) to ask me if I was sure I didn't want him anymore as there was one woman who was interested in him (Scottish Woman also) and that he was sure she would give him the stability he wanted in his life (this meaning marriage and his own business ) he told me she likes Morocco very much(she was speaking French better than him) she was very rich and would be able to fund his business , so there was chance she could be the one to fulfill his dream ,and he had to mention that she did not mind living in the dıngy back street apartments(that I complained about) :) , he went on to say she is not beautiful but that didn't matter as it's a deal , he said " those women just want love as they cant find it in their own country , so we tell them we love them , and they give us a better stable life in return .. he said Moroccans are not fussy about what the woman looks like or her age etc !!!! of course he is correct, there marriages are usually arranged by their families ( as was done for his older brother ) !! but to hear this so bluntly from him made it so clear that is exactly what those predators think when they are targeting us

His relationship with this woman progressed and he updated me on all activities , he took her to all the same places that we went to at the beginning( capturing all the possible romantic settings & sunsets etc ) using anything his country had to offer to help make the whole package look attractive and hope it sold well , he laughed and said this was his set plan for all new GF's..

The communication regarding the new GF went on for a few months and I told him that he was being very disrespectful to her by contacting me daily and I advised him that I almost felt guilty to be part of it and I threatened to tell her

BUT In his defence he told me that most of the western women leave themselves open to this as they meet and marry Moroccan men so easily (I was an exception apparently ) , laughing while giving me examples of some recent marriages he had attended , " one example" where the couple met while she was arriving by bus he was just handing out flyers , she only knew him for a few days during her whole vacation but turned back to UK got her papers and married him few weeks later what can I say ???

In the last year I have followed the new GF's blogs, she writes publicly about all her visits to Morocco ,experiences of shopping in the souks , eating out etc praises him for his ability to negotiate prices with the locals( like he did for me) and just like me she visited Essaouira many times to be with him, she is now proposing to spend lots more time there later this year with the hope of starting business J so he is correct , she did do all that for him and "very easily too as it seems " in most recent contact he told me he has no job , just enjoying his water sports and learning Spanish language (most probably so he can communicate with his customers when his new business takes off ) (does this sound familiar ) ??

He regularly compares himself to all his other scamming friends , and is so jealous of the ones who have previously married foreigners and spent some time working in foreign countries , as they have returned to Morocco now with much more money enabling them to invest ın their own business , build nice homes (but be noted they have come back alone, no foreign wife ) !!!! most probably will marry one of their own and as they are much better off financially they can be accepted to marry within a better class family if you don't have money the womens family will not accept you as"'he personally experienced this previously when he asked to marry his sweetheart who he had met in university and was refused by her family as he did not have enough money to support her I truly think that is the main reason he decided to target foreigners for marriage , business and money as he found out he couldn't marry the woman he truly loved because of money .. this is what happens in countries such as Morocco

Lucky to have lived in this country for work I was able to get very good insight into the local culture , got talking to the locals (some of his friends also ) and was interested most of all how they view foreigners(westerners) etc I have had many conversations(some heated) with locals as they view us as rich, spoiled people , we are totally resented by them , so beware ,if they want you in their life its because they want to get some of your wealth, they don't see scamming people into marriage with their lies to be a sin as they truly think such wealth should be shared equally amongst us , and they are only trying to take whats rightfully theirs , their told me their God does not see any wrong doing as they will provide more for their families and give to the poor !!!!

I could write so much more detail about the relationship with this man , the experiences I have had living and working in the countries mentioned above but I really only wanted to share the basic facts

I am so glad to see that new people are continuing to find this site , reading the posts can hopefully prevent them from making huge and meaningful mistakes in their life or in some cases receiving valuable support after the realization that they have been cheated and scammed by the Arab (Muslim men ) , for whatever the reasons ie Fınance , Visa's, Green cards , sex etc but at least knowing they are not alone brings comfort and support as it did to me

If anyone is considering a relationship or marriage to an Arab (Muslim) and wants any advice (read the posts on this site ) people have taken the time to write them for a reason

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Signed off by One very relieved and happy " X "

J

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2Money scamming is not the main reason [148 words]PrashantJun 24, 2022 08:49264747
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3Overcoming a Fear of Separation Anxiety - Insincerity is the Witness Seen in this Delusion [239 words]M ToveyJun 25, 2022 00:00264747
2Be careful [41 words]Catherine Elaine PeppersFeb 4, 2023 14:50264747
good evening catherine [208 words]MimiFeb 5, 2023 16:02264747
20To Brainwashed Smasher about the true meaning of nikah [505 words]A very concerned readerMar 1, 2021 01:44264398
16To Sherry: Veils for answering the nature's call, the Muslim men's right to rape the unveiled women [345 words]A very concerned readerFeb 26, 2021 14:24264318
25About the houris [690 words]A very concerned readerFeb 23, 2021 00:17264210
22To N and S: some replies to your questions and resources for you! [632 words]A very concerned readerFeb 18, 2021 18:26264041
36Long Live the Non-Muslim [847 words]AliciaFeb 18, 2021 15:37264035
15So beautifully written. Real facts. Why Islam can't be compared to other religions [353 words]A very concerned readerFeb 19, 2021 15:43264035
5Breath Taking and True Post [15 words]ChelseaMar 16, 2021 19:18264035
27Talking about morals: to Alicia on her last post which by the way I love! [314 words]A very concerned readerFeb 16, 2021 00:03263953
18Reply to A very concerned reader [115 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 17, 2021 00:04263953
22A mix of fear, convenience, jealousy and pride: women's role in Islam [652 words]A very concerned readerFeb 18, 2021 04:44263953
6Hi A very concerned reader [516 words]N and SFeb 18, 2021 13:06263953
17Muslims Countries vs The rest of the World [305 words]AliciaFeb 18, 2021 13:52263953
13Muslim's misgiving [167 words]PrashantFeb 18, 2021 16:33263953
14Wrong religion, wrong site! [84 words]A very concerned readerFeb 19, 2021 16:06263953
7100 percent correct [68 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 20, 2021 01:34263953
8Well said a Very concerned reader [153 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 20, 2021 01:52263953
12Here's a nice example [79 words]JeffFeb 20, 2021 21:21263953
8Oh, The houris... [441 words]A very concerned readerFeb 20, 2021 23:52263953
11Once again, one-sided love [66 words]A very concerned readerFeb 22, 2021 13:33263953
1Failure to Notice Where Devotion to God is Supreme in Eternity [211 words]M ToveyFeb 22, 2021 15:38263953
4Haha A concerned reader [12 words]jessica (canada)Feb 22, 2021 18:43263953
14A God with no compassion, a reward full of lust [116 words]A very concerned readerFeb 22, 2021 22:48263953
2Very well said [5 words]PrasthantFeb 23, 2021 22:09263953
11Recovery [76 words]SherryFeb 24, 2021 11:35263953
4Relationships that Serve the Prideful Self Always Breaks the Hearts of Others [366 words]M ToveyFeb 24, 2021 12:49263953
9NPD in Muslim men and Ali Sina [317 words]A very concerned readerFeb 24, 2021 13:25263953
9Very nice reflection, M Tovey: time comes when the only thing you see is the Muslim man [358 words]A very concerned readerFeb 25, 2021 01:35263953
4Objection on Religious Grounds - Men and Women Equal in Eyes of Heaven, Salvation [479 words]M ToveyFeb 26, 2021 18:53263953
9Narcissist destroy, empaths create: a selfish religion to cater one man's needs? [483 words]A very concerned readerMar 1, 2021 15:06263953
2Correction [45 words]A very concerned readerMar 1, 2021 17:43263953
3Male-Female Emotional Disparity - Seeking Common Ground of Love [342 words]M ToveyMar 2, 2021 13:31263953
5Sowing what we truly embrace and want to reap! [314 words]A very concerned readerMar 3, 2021 02:48263953
5Emotional Survival of the Most Desperate Kind [438 words]M ToveyMar 4, 2021 11:49263953
8To N and S [233 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 21:19263845
17Thank you FAtou [88 words]BaboonFeb 9, 2021 12:49263786
9Hi Jessica [190 words]N and SFeb 9, 2021 15:57263786
10N and S [228 words]LinaFeb 9, 2021 17:05263786
19It's more dangerous than people may think [254 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 14:57263786
8Very good points [213 words]LinaFeb 10, 2021 22:17263786
7Very true [120 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 15:22263786
7N and S [471 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 21:09263786
4N and S reply [645 words]jessica (canada)Feb 12, 2021 18:23263786
7Hi A very concerned reader [516 words]N and SFeb 17, 2021 16:51263786
3WEAK [23 words]alanaSep 12, 2021 07:00263786
48To Fatou/Adja, to the immigration officers of Western countries, to this forum readers. To those googling "I'm in love with a Muslim man" [812 words]A very concerned readerFeb 9, 2021 00:36263772
17I wish I could raise a toast to this [174 words]AliciaFeb 10, 2021 01:16263772
11Cheers! [230 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 14:16263772
5Let's raise* that toast!!! [23 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 15:11263772
11I could not agree more! [178 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 01:10263772
19Why they don't like Christianity [713 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 06:28263772
10Big hypocrite [222 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 09:16263772
14Hijab and the hypocrisy of it [144 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 15:13263772
4Where is the Truth Hiding When No One is Looking for it [233 words]M ToveyFeb 11, 2021 21:35263772
14My insight about Islam and why a Non Muslim woman can fit in this ideology [648 words]A very concerned readerFeb 14, 2021 00:18263772
2Why Non Muslim women can't fit* [14 words]A very concerned readerFeb 14, 2021 01:18263772
18Their lives and hearts are so dark [102 words]Ella AustraliaFeb 14, 2021 23:54263772
11Why they don't like Christianity [19 words]Lisa D.Feb 15, 2021 12:35263772
1Why Eternal Fulfillment is of Love/Respect is Hard to See [282 words]M ToveyFeb 15, 2021 18:02263772
7Well said, Islam has straight jacketed itself into self destruction. [139 words]PrasthantFeb 15, 2021 18:30263772
12Same feeling here, Ella, while we make great efforts to integrate their culture [144 words]A very concerned readerFeb 16, 2021 02:18263772
2Basis of Anthipathy Towards Judeo-Christian (Messianic) Beliefs [220 words]M ToveyFeb 19, 2021 21:55263772
3Great Truth teachings on Islam [99 words]SherryFeb 24, 2021 11:56263772
5Veils for answering the nature's call, the Muslim men's right to rape the unveiled women [338 words]A very concerned readerFeb 26, 2021 06:33263772
4Muslim dislike Christian / Christians have POWER over them [7 words]BrendaSep 17, 2021 15:28263772
7Hijab should not be used to exemplify diversity [274 words]PrashantFeb 7, 2021 01:39263720
21To Fatou: we wish we were discarded by your men!/ Thank us for warning you that they don't respect you either [335 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 15:12263711
10Ladies here last comment [146 words]FatouFeb 6, 2021 09:56263707
Rat or not? [106 words]MimiAug 16, 2021 15:20263707
10Muslim Men will NEVER Marry a 53 year old Woman [243 words]AliciaAug 16, 2021 21:34263707
Female 53 years old. [102 words]MimiAug 17, 2021 14:42263707
5Hijab should not be presented as a symbol of diversity [159 words]PrashantFeb 6, 2021 01:47263699
7Hijab as a political statement [45 words]Lisa D.Feb 9, 2021 15:10263699
4Lina reply [90 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 17:30263683
12Fatou: We wish they discard us!/ you should thank us for warning you [247 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 14:57263683
4I would just leave it be [64 words]AjdaFeb 8, 2021 02:01263683
11Hmmm Fatou we all wonder [66 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 11:51263683
5Ajda [7 words]FatouFeb 8, 2021 15:39263683
11Fatou's self-righteousness stinks [110 words]PrashantFeb 9, 2021 18:12263683
3Married [25 words]To Jessica canadaFeb 11, 2021 10:11263683
5Big hypocrites too!!! [263 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 10:51263683
9Religion over Science [77 words]Lisa DFeb 11, 2021 12:35263683
5Gifts [12 words]LinaFeb 11, 2021 15:48263683
19Marriage means nothing in Islam, my dear [101 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 18:04263683
6Reply about Married- and why are you using my name [143 words]jessica (canada)Feb 12, 2021 16:23263683
13Islam is the worst, Muslim countries will never prosper they just get worse [87 words]AliciaFeb 12, 2021 17:33263683
6Alicia is right about Islam [96 words]PrashantFeb 15, 2021 18:42263683
6Cannot say Merry Christmas in here. [43 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 15, 2021 22:34263683
9You're very right, that's why our women need to be aware of this [300 words]A very concerned readerFeb 15, 2021 23:12263683
7Big thank you and my best wishes always [263 words]A very concerned readerFeb 15, 2021 23:37263683
2Rat?? [99 words]MimiAug 18, 2021 05:17263683
1ROP celebrations in Dhaka [184 words]PrashantApr 5, 2022 21:00263683
Another violent incidence in Tel Aviv [122 words]PrashantApr 7, 2022 21:03263683
14The true face of a real Muslim Woman [1019 words]AliciaFeb 5, 2021 13:58263674
21To Fatou: Muslimahs are deceived too. Are you surprised? [294 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 13:14263670
4We all wait for Fatou reply to your comments [11 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 11:56263670
2Lina [144 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 09:16263662
1Explain to concerned reader [145 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 09:08263661
16Your points [64 words]LinaFeb 5, 2021 13:54263661
21Correction and more unreplied questions [209 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 14:43263661
14Purpose of the board [233 words]LinaFeb 5, 2021 17:34263661
8Things that happen in males parties and when nobody is watching [39 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 20:01263661
12I'll take what I want from your culture and insult the rest [125 words]JeffFeb 5, 2021 20:44263661
16The reasons why Fatou is here and the controversial respect topic [290 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 16:03263661
3Lina and other who take this tone in comments [107 words]FatouFeb 7, 2021 09:55263661
7Don't forget [144 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:38263661
6Thank you [125 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:48263661
5Or better still [18 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:50263661
8So true, Lina [123 words]A concerned readerFeb 8, 2021 23:15263661
3Thanks to you too! [23 words]A very concerned readerFeb 8, 2021 23:52263661
8That is why Muslims (and the reader Fatou) need education [157 words]PrashantFeb 9, 2021 17:59263661
26Muslim Marriages the REAL WAY [1437 words]AliciaFeb 4, 2021 23:03263645
12What a good picture of Pakistani societal system [281 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 13:58263645
7Yes muslim will never like non-muslim [86 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 12:07263645
6This part is so true Alicia [387 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 12:45263645
1Pipes Response/Our Religion [36 words]FatouFeb 4, 2021 16:31263624
3Teaching basic Arabic to wannabe Arabs our dear Fatou [241 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 5, 2021 14:14263624
4Guiding the perplexed our dear Fatou and deciphering the Arabic language [97 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 5, 2021 14:29263624
1Our dear Fatou and the word الصلوة/الصلاة (PRAYER) in the Qur'an [398 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 6, 2021 07:50263624
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AjdaFeb 8, 2021 09:53263624
23About arranged marriages: what Western women must know [299 words]A very concerned readerFeb 3, 2021 22:30263589
19In response to Fatou 2: It's all about respect [123 words]A very concerned readerFeb 3, 2021 17:55263578
10A very concerned reader: The correct translation of صلى الله عليه وسلم is not the PBUH nonsense [158 words]
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dhimmi no moreFeb 3, 2021 15:07263571

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