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Warning signs missed and now I dont know what to do!!!!

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Submitted by Louise (United Kingdom), Jan 12, 2012 at 07:36

Ive read and re read over the last 18 months how women are conned, red flags and warning sign and how there never seems to be any marriages that last, but did I take note, oh no I did have the but MMD, he seemed to be but in reality what he was doing was chipping away at a bubbly outgoing honest and kind person and moulding her into what he wanted, a wreck who never goes out, is always around when HE wants me to be and is only allowed to have my parents as my friends. The clothes I wear are wrong, even though not conservative to their standards but conservative enough for my Country, he demands money and never cares whether I have a problem here or not... his answer is the same I want a happy wife so stop thinking too much. So Id add that I never get any support at all and now I dont have the framework of friends have even less of a support than when I was single. My friends were not right for me and he said if I loved him I would stop seeing and speaking to them also.

I met him on holiday been many times before and always found the standard chatup lines to be amusing and cringeworthy but he seemed different, was a connection from the very beginning.. nothing happened and we continued contact via phone/internet.. at this point I should have walked as I had another lady who told me that he had told her they would marry and he would take her to meet his family, I believed him as she got so many details wrong and she was pratically stalking me online and calling me all the names under the sun.... so I put it down to her being a bunnyboiler... this was the biggest mistake I made and maybe if Id have walked then it might have been her or someone else that was writing this today.

I have no idea how I get out of this now as Im on the floor and he is fantastic at making me believe he has done nothing wrong and that he loves me and I end up giving him another chance.

When I met him he was charming but not sickly charming and always behaved like a gent.. he never asked for anything and said that his workmates acted disgustlingly towards western women using them for sex etc but he was different... I went back to see him and he asked me to marry him at the Embassy and I said no, it was far too soon and in the West we take our time, a document dropped out of his pocket and it was an OFRI marriage cert, created before I had got there with my name and signature forged, he told me we couldnt share an apartment without that so I agreed that it was probably the best way as I wouoldnt marry him.

He left working in Sharm as he said he couldnt keep working with other women and stayed at home, he asked for some money to be sent for his passport etc, blind stupid and not knowing prices I sent him £100, he then said he had a problem getting his passport as applying had raised the fact that he hadnt done his National Service, so he would have to do that first, looking back he went home cos he had to do National Service not cos he didnt want to work.. I visited him again just before he started his National Service and I was introduced to his family in his village, mother father, brothers sister,, aunts uncles, grandfather, I met them all but he had told them we were already married and in their eyes we shared a bedroom in their home...

He said that his parents could not afford to suppport him through his service and would I send him £100 every month for him to live on, he asked me again just before Service started would I marry him as he was afraid Id walk away and not wait but again I said NO, he has told me many times since it is my fault he is doing his service as he wouoldnt have had to if we had married.. I didnt like this idea of sending money but after pressure and being made to feel guilty I caved in and sent the money every time he was on vacation or if I was there with him at his family home which I have been 5 times over the last 14 months he has took it from my purse anyway and the money to pay for everything whilst I have been there, he has kept in contact practically on a daily basis unless he is at home on vacation and unless I go crazy he doesnt contact, or answer his phone. I can only ever speak with him when it suits him. Every time I have been, he tells me what to wear, sexy enough for him to be a strutting peacock but totaly covered up, he did tell me to cover my long blonde hair as to which I refused and thanks to his sister saying NO she doesnt have to he relented..

The last vacation he had he asked for money that I didnt have as it was Christmas and I had the yearly bills to pay ie car insurance, house insurance etc he said no problem he would sort it and he did, he borrowed it from a relative and then told me to send it over the next week, I said I cant as my daughter was going to be in hospital to which he said if you loved me you wouldnt show me up to my family.. I cried when he told me he had borrowed over £100 and giving it him would leave me so short of money and that he didnt care my daughter was in hospital, I had to send it to his mum as he said his father would never understand that he had borrowed money. I said Id only send it to your father as your mum cant write her name to pick it up so I have no idea what he told his father but he did pick it up.

Over the time he has also been in contact with an Egyptian girl from his village and said she was keeping an eye on his sister, not true, then he said he borrowed money from her and went to her home to repay it.. cant see that, then as he gave me his log in details for yahoo I checked the conversations and lo and behold he was bragging that the woman and her daughter was still giving him money... said it wasnt me but the Egyptian... and a few times he has been logging onto porn sites but its never him its always a friend that has borrowed his phone and used his email and password... he said these are things a good Muslim wouldnt do and that this was a mark against his name and Allah would punish him!!!!!!!!!!

I started reading maybe too late some of the stories and comments on here, and I thought, no I was introduced to his family, no he doesnt do that, no he hasnt asked for large amounts of money etc etc, but the truth is why ask for loads when he has a regular income coming in anyway... he has finished his service now and expects me to fly over to marry him and bring him back to my Country but I said I wont he can come as a visitor to see if he likes it, that gives me a few months extra to decide if it would work out, obviously it would be me paying for all this. Now I dont even want to spend the money on a visitors visa as I know deep in my heart that once here he will disappear.

If I try to end it, he says no I cant live without you, and I wont let you go... he does everything even his family and friends contact me.. he does become a mess and I give in and he says I make him into a good person and he needs that. He has told me that now he has finished his service we will never be apart again and there is no way I will leave Egypt without him... I will have to stay with him till his visa is ready.

I do say he has never been abusive, he is always calm, it is me that sometimes goes crazy, I have put all this to him and asked him if he has enjoyed his scam before and he was hurt but at no point made me feel as if I was unsafe... he said he wouldnt scam me as he loved me and wanted to spend his life with me and would make it up to me once we were married and he would be the one to look after me....

I have no idea now what to do and how to end this, just the thought Ive been used for a visa/money is eating me up, but part of me wants him to prove that Im being paranoid and untrusting towards him. Any advise or suggestions to move this forward before I really go insane?

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9Very nice reflection, M Tovey: time comes when the only thing you see is the Muslim man [358 words]A very concerned readerFeb 25, 2021 01:35263953
4Objection on Religious Grounds - Men and Women Equal in Eyes of Heaven, Salvation [479 words]M ToveyFeb 26, 2021 18:53263953
9Narcissist destroy, empaths create: a selfish religion to cater one man's needs? [483 words]A very concerned readerMar 1, 2021 15:06263953
2Correction [45 words]A very concerned readerMar 1, 2021 17:43263953
3Male-Female Emotional Disparity - Seeking Common Ground of Love [342 words]M ToveyMar 2, 2021 13:31263953
5Sowing what we truly embrace and want to reap! [314 words]A very concerned readerMar 3, 2021 02:48263953
5Emotional Survival of the Most Desperate Kind [438 words]M ToveyMar 4, 2021 11:49263953
8To N and S [233 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 21:19263845
17Thank you FAtou [88 words]BaboonFeb 9, 2021 12:49263786
9Hi Jessica [190 words]N and SFeb 9, 2021 15:57263786
10N and S [228 words]LinaFeb 9, 2021 17:05263786
19It's more dangerous than people may think [254 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 14:57263786
8Very good points [213 words]LinaFeb 10, 2021 22:17263786
7Very true [120 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 15:22263786
7N and S [471 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 21:09263786
4N and S reply [645 words]jessica (canada)Feb 12, 2021 18:23263786
7Hi A very concerned reader [516 words]N and SFeb 17, 2021 16:51263786
3WEAK [23 words]alanaSep 12, 2021 07:00263786
48To Fatou/Adja, to the immigration officers of Western countries, to this forum readers. To those googling "I'm in love with a Muslim man" [812 words]A very concerned readerFeb 9, 2021 00:36263772
17I wish I could raise a toast to this [174 words]AliciaFeb 10, 2021 01:16263772
11Cheers! [230 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 14:16263772
5Let's raise* that toast!!! [23 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 15:11263772
11I could not agree more! [178 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 01:10263772
19Why they don't like Christianity [713 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 06:28263772
10Big hypocrite [222 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 09:16263772
14Hijab and the hypocrisy of it [144 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 15:13263772
4Where is the Truth Hiding When No One is Looking for it [233 words]M ToveyFeb 11, 2021 21:35263772
14My insight about Islam and why a Non Muslim woman can fit in this ideology [648 words]A very concerned readerFeb 14, 2021 00:18263772
2Why Non Muslim women can't fit* [14 words]A very concerned readerFeb 14, 2021 01:18263772
18Their lives and hearts are so dark [102 words]Ella AustraliaFeb 14, 2021 23:54263772
11Why they don't like Christianity [19 words]Lisa D.Feb 15, 2021 12:35263772
1Why Eternal Fulfillment is of Love/Respect is Hard to See [282 words]M ToveyFeb 15, 2021 18:02263772
7Well said, Islam has straight jacketed itself into self destruction. [139 words]PrasthantFeb 15, 2021 18:30263772
12Same feeling here, Ella, while we make great efforts to integrate their culture [144 words]A very concerned readerFeb 16, 2021 02:18263772
2Basis of Anthipathy Towards Judeo-Christian (Messianic) Beliefs [220 words]M ToveyFeb 19, 2021 21:55263772
3Great Truth teachings on Islam [99 words]SherryFeb 24, 2021 11:56263772
5Veils for answering the nature's call, the Muslim men's right to rape the unveiled women [338 words]A very concerned readerFeb 26, 2021 06:33263772
4Muslim dislike Christian / Christians have POWER over them [7 words]BrendaSep 17, 2021 15:28263772
7Hijab should not be used to exemplify diversity [274 words]PrashantFeb 7, 2021 01:39263720
21To Fatou: we wish we were discarded by your men!/ Thank us for warning you that they don't respect you either [335 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 15:12263711
10Ladies here last comment [146 words]FatouFeb 6, 2021 09:56263707
Rat or not? [106 words]MimiAug 16, 2021 15:20263707
10Muslim Men will NEVER Marry a 53 year old Woman [243 words]AliciaAug 16, 2021 21:34263707
Female 53 years old. [102 words]MimiAug 17, 2021 14:42263707
5Hijab should not be presented as a symbol of diversity [159 words]PrashantFeb 6, 2021 01:47263699
7Hijab as a political statement [45 words]Lisa D.Feb 9, 2021 15:10263699
4Lina reply [90 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 17:30263683
12Fatou: We wish they discard us!/ you should thank us for warning you [247 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 14:57263683
4I would just leave it be [64 words]AjdaFeb 8, 2021 02:01263683
11Hmmm Fatou we all wonder [66 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 11:51263683
5Ajda [7 words]FatouFeb 8, 2021 15:39263683
11Fatou's self-righteousness stinks [110 words]PrashantFeb 9, 2021 18:12263683
3Married [25 words]To Jessica canadaFeb 11, 2021 10:11263683
5Big hypocrites too!!! [263 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 10:51263683
9Religion over Science [77 words]Lisa DFeb 11, 2021 12:35263683
5Gifts [12 words]LinaFeb 11, 2021 15:48263683
19Marriage means nothing in Islam, my dear [101 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 18:04263683
6Reply about Married- and why are you using my name [143 words]jessica (canada)Feb 12, 2021 16:23263683
13Islam is the worst, Muslim countries will never prosper they just get worse [87 words]AliciaFeb 12, 2021 17:33263683
6Alicia is right about Islam [96 words]PrashantFeb 15, 2021 18:42263683
6Cannot say Merry Christmas in here. [43 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 15, 2021 22:34263683
9You're very right, that's why our women need to be aware of this [300 words]A very concerned readerFeb 15, 2021 23:12263683
7Big thank you and my best wishes always [263 words]A very concerned readerFeb 15, 2021 23:37263683
2Rat?? [99 words]MimiAug 18, 2021 05:17263683
1ROP celebrations in Dhaka [184 words]PrashantApr 5, 2022 21:00263683
Another violent incidence in Tel Aviv [122 words]PrashantApr 7, 2022 21:03263683
15The true face of a real Muslim Woman [1019 words]AliciaFeb 5, 2021 13:58263674
21To Fatou: Muslimahs are deceived too. Are you surprised? [294 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 13:14263670
4We all wait for Fatou reply to your comments [11 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 11:56263670
2Lina [144 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 09:16263662
1Explain to concerned reader [145 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 09:08263661
16Your points [64 words]LinaFeb 5, 2021 13:54263661
21Correction and more unreplied questions [209 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 14:43263661
14Purpose of the board [233 words]LinaFeb 5, 2021 17:34263661
8Things that happen in males parties and when nobody is watching [39 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 20:01263661
13I'll take what I want from your culture and insult the rest [125 words]JeffFeb 5, 2021 20:44263661
16The reasons why Fatou is here and the controversial respect topic [290 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 16:03263661
3Lina and other who take this tone in comments [107 words]FatouFeb 7, 2021 09:55263661
7Don't forget [144 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:38263661
6Thank you [125 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:48263661
5Or better still [18 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:50263661
8So true, Lina [123 words]A concerned readerFeb 8, 2021 23:15263661
3Thanks to you too! [23 words]A very concerned readerFeb 8, 2021 23:52263661
8That is why Muslims (and the reader Fatou) need education [157 words]PrashantFeb 9, 2021 17:59263661
27Muslim Marriages the REAL WAY [1437 words]AliciaFeb 4, 2021 23:03263645
12What a good picture of Pakistani societal system [281 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 13:58263645
7Yes muslim will never like non-muslim [86 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 12:07263645
6This part is so true Alicia [387 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 12:45263645
1Pipes Response/Our Religion [36 words]FatouFeb 4, 2021 16:31263624
3Teaching basic Arabic to wannabe Arabs our dear Fatou [241 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 5, 2021 14:14263624
4Guiding the perplexed our dear Fatou and deciphering the Arabic language [97 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 5, 2021 14:29263624
1Our dear Fatou and the word الصلوة/الصلاة (PRAYER) in the Qur'an [398 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 6, 2021 07:50263624
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AjdaFeb 8, 2021 09:53263624
23About arranged marriages: what Western women must know [299 words]A very concerned readerFeb 3, 2021 22:30263589
19In response to Fatou 2: It's all about respect [123 words]A very concerned readerFeb 3, 2021 17:55263578
10A very concerned reader: The correct translation of صلى الله عليه وسلم is not the PBUH nonsense [158 words]
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dhimmi no moreFeb 3, 2021 15:07263571

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