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in response to reader comment: Hear me out please

Submitted by love is blind (United States), Jan 7, 2009 at 13:40

I wanted to respond right away when I saw your post. When you asked if anyone could feel where you are coming from, I want you to know that I do, and I am sure there are still alot of women out there who have been sworn to secrecy by their man and will not, out of fear or disrespect, disclose the information we have chose to. I came upon this site myself many many months ago, before my husband arrived with me here and at that time was shocked to see how many references were made to situations that were eeringly similiar to mine.

"i have been getting up the courage to write"

it makes women like us feel better to have someone, anyone to talk to after being isolated

"when we first started out, all was great. He was kind, understanding and seemed to be accepting of my culture"

mine too! i felt so happy to find the ONE that was different than the rest. Surely he was not at all like the typical "muslims" I had heard about.

"he has gotten more and more controlling, there are so many things that I am not allowed to do now, which makes me feel sick to be honest."

I am not surprised. My husband's stifling and controlling grip was very strong even when we were separated for close to a year at a time. The signs, which at first seemed so attentive and caring, became so smothering that I had my doubts if his grip would ease up once he got here. The answer is IT WILL NOT and IT HAS NOT FOR ME.

"He also doesnt like me to go out without telling him where I am going (even the supermarket) and gets very upset when I do"

OMG this is too familiar!! Upset isnt even the word....my husband calculates every stinking minute I am away from him and those minutes need to be accounted for. I mean I can do normal things like run errands or do spontaneous things without having some heavy duty explaining and even when I am telling the complete truth he doesnt believe me. I just dont know what planet he is from where things come up unexpectedly and that things take time to get done. The only time he is relaxed when I am with my kids, then, he feels I am truthful and being "supervised". He has even gone as far as to question them about what I have done" and wanted to call my work to verify information and make it clear that he is my husband and that no one should disrespect me.

"we were supposed to get married last year, but I put the wedding off"

GOOD GIRL, and I know that it is not so cut and dry when people tell you to get away from him, but after what I have been through, and I am an intelligent, beautiful and successful woman, I am going to tell you NEVER marry him, you are only going to see worse things once you are HIS wife.

"i love the man i fell in love with who was so cool and open-minded"

I MISS MY MAN who fit that description in the beginning. Good luck getting him back, it is doubtful. I often ask myself how someone could be so deceiving. There are still times that we share tender moments and that I feel we are having a nice time together, but it is not true happiness. I dont trust him at all...it is just so hot and cold...mostly inside me I am not happy at all anymore. I have become so unhappy and tired that I dont hesitate to tell him exactly how I feel in the exact angry, disgusted and upset tone that I feel...i may be jeapordizing my own safety when I do that.

"he had gone back on so many things that he has said to me that I feel I cannot trust him anymore"

It used to be in my situation that it was ME who couldnt be trusted. I used to feel I trusted him implicitly. I know how you feel. My husband has been here nearly 2 months, it has been nothing but a nightmare, read my post "heed the warning signs, please". I dont trust him at all, I have to live day by day with him not knowing what his mood is, always walking on eggshells as far as how he will react to normal every events and things I tell him. I cant trust him because he promises me he wont drink ever again and he wont badger me and beat me, but he always goes back on his promises. I have finally told him, "I dont trust you at all, how does it feel?, you are a liar more than what you are always accusing me of, your character is worse than any man's I have ever encountered (how he would profess to supercede the character and actions of men in my past), I told him that because of actions I fear him, I dont love him the same way I did in the past and the only one he can blame is himself" his mother should be ashamed.

I am getting stronger. I have always been an independent, strong willed. These type of men cant handle strong willed, independent, out going women like us. We butt heads...he is also hard headed and hot tempered and we are like oil and water, WE DONT MIX!

"i am well educated and successful"

no doubt, most of us are. I still ask myself how I was so blinded and the answer is LOVE. Read my screen name...LOVE IS BLIND. I have given more than any woman would...financially supported him and the visa process from A - Z. I am sick now too to think that I have paid for my life to be this way.

"can anyone understand me"

I understand all too well..Read my one post about heeding warning signs. Seeing your post is the reason I finally broke my silence and I will be subjecting myself to comments and criticism that is not as easy to heed as one, (not being in my shoes exactly), might think.

"the idea that I pay for and sponsnor him to go to my country and once he finds his feet he begins his control again really fills me with dread"

I did it all! If you knew my exactly what I have done for my husband no rational, caring person would ever think that he would be so unappreciative and hurtful. I am not materialistic at all nor do I want to throw the proof into his face....I mean I have given my blood sweat and tears into this, I have put his needs before those of my own and my children..YES, dont forget I am mother of 3 children and struggling all this time to make the ends meet on my end! I guess I can only blame myself....all I wanted was to get him here and nothing stood in my way of that. I single handedly did all this. If all he would give were the little things that are more meaningful and quite frankly free of cost I would never utter a word of "all I have done for you" I would have NEVER thought things were going to be this way. I had all these hopes and dreams that have now been squashed. I thought he would be so happy to be here with me #1. I thought he would finally be even more privvy to my life and that would quell his suspicions and concerns about what was going on here. I thought he would ease up on his restrictions but it seems the more I give, the nicer I am, the more forgiving...the more gripping he gets. I dont know what else to say to you except THINGS WONT CHANGE, no matter what you do or how much you give.

"he if from quite a poor family"

YEAH all the more reason why he should be grateful and humble. My husband too, I have given him everything and look how i get paid back. Where is the love? Where is the respect? I try to tell him respect goes both ways. I used to be so happy and relaxed, even despite my hardship. All I wanted for him was to be comfortable and safe and happy. Again putting his needs before my own. I never saw him as selfish. He rarely came out and ASKED me to give money to him or do things. I did it to help him cuz that is what you do when you love someone but again the men from these countries are babied by the women in their life, I see him now like a spoiled child, who has had everything handed to him. Why should he have to live any other way than like a king? It is just so pathetic. At least my husband will do dishes, make the bed and clean up for me when I am at work. At least he does want to work and help support us. I dunno there is a whole nother set of worries that comes along with him gaining more independence too. I can get back to that later. Not to mention that he has already jeopordized mine and his co-sponsor's good name and lively hood but making problems. It just isnt evidence of someone who is appreciative of a good wife and a good life.

"he is not a horrible person though"

LOL, I used to say that same sentence. Haha...now I could careless what I say or what trouble it warrants me, HE IS A MONSTER and why I ever let it get this far I will never know. I believed in love. No one is going to change unless they want to . You cant make anyone change, especially at this stage in the game. Once you become weak and submissive...or obedient and passive they will continue to take advantage. You should be glad you dont get beaten for NO REASON at all. PLUS, we all have baggage and we are not perfect but that is no excuse to take abuse just because they had a hard life and probably were abused themselves.

"I just think he fails to see that he is breaking my spirit"

There is nothing like losing the light inside you. I worked so hard to get to a peaceful, content place in my life. I was convinced, even though I had other prospects, that this man was for me. I totally changed my direction and myself to have him in my life. He convinced me that I needed to be CLEAN. He invaded every aspect of my life. Made me disconnect myself from any friends I had, demanded my passwords to my email accounts, tried to contact (any way he could) my old friends/boyfriends, he made me get rid of all memoirs and souvenirs from my travels and my past, I feel he has even gotten so bad as to try and monitor my own thinking and interests. He is suffocating believe me. I cant believe I have divluged as much as I have but you know what IT FEELS GOOD and another thing, I hope it helps even one of you think twice before marrying someone YOU FEEL IN YOUR GUT has issues or may be deceiving you.

I cant remember the last time I was happy and as much as I hope and pleaded with GOD to bring him to me, I want my life back the way it was before. I might have been lonely at times, but I was happy, free and at peace in my home.

GOD BLESS YOU

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15So beautifully written. Real facts. Why Islam can't be compared to other religions [353 words]A very concerned readerFeb 19, 2021 15:43264035
5Breath Taking and True Post [15 words]ChelseaMar 16, 2021 19:18264035
27Talking about morals: to Alicia on her last post which by the way I love! [314 words]A very concerned readerFeb 16, 2021 00:03263953
18Reply to A very concerned reader [115 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 17, 2021 00:04263953
22A mix of fear, convenience, jealousy and pride: women's role in Islam [652 words]A very concerned readerFeb 18, 2021 04:44263953
6Hi A very concerned reader [516 words]N and SFeb 18, 2021 13:06263953
17Muslims Countries vs The rest of the World [305 words]AliciaFeb 18, 2021 13:52263953
13Muslim's misgiving [167 words]PrashantFeb 18, 2021 16:33263953
14Wrong religion, wrong site! [84 words]A very concerned readerFeb 19, 2021 16:06263953
7100 percent correct [68 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 20, 2021 01:34263953
8Well said a Very concerned reader [153 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 20, 2021 01:52263953
12Here's a nice example [79 words]JeffFeb 20, 2021 21:21263953
8Oh, The houris... [441 words]A very concerned readerFeb 20, 2021 23:52263953
11Once again, one-sided love [66 words]A very concerned readerFeb 22, 2021 13:33263953
1Failure to Notice Where Devotion to God is Supreme in Eternity [211 words]M ToveyFeb 22, 2021 15:38263953
4Haha A concerned reader [12 words]jessica (canada)Feb 22, 2021 18:43263953
14A God with no compassion, a reward full of lust [116 words]A very concerned readerFeb 22, 2021 22:48263953
2Very well said [5 words]PrasthantFeb 23, 2021 22:09263953
11Recovery [76 words]SherryFeb 24, 2021 11:35263953
4Relationships that Serve the Prideful Self Always Breaks the Hearts of Others [366 words]M ToveyFeb 24, 2021 12:49263953
9NPD in Muslim men and Ali Sina [317 words]A very concerned readerFeb 24, 2021 13:25263953
9Very nice reflection, M Tovey: time comes when the only thing you see is the Muslim man [358 words]A very concerned readerFeb 25, 2021 01:35263953
4Objection on Religious Grounds - Men and Women Equal in Eyes of Heaven, Salvation [479 words]M ToveyFeb 26, 2021 18:53263953
9Narcissist destroy, empaths create: a selfish religion to cater one man's needs? [483 words]A very concerned readerMar 1, 2021 15:06263953
2Correction [45 words]A very concerned readerMar 1, 2021 17:43263953
3Male-Female Emotional Disparity - Seeking Common Ground of Love [342 words]M ToveyMar 2, 2021 13:31263953
5Sowing what we truly embrace and want to reap! [314 words]A very concerned readerMar 3, 2021 02:48263953
5Emotional Survival of the Most Desperate Kind [438 words]M ToveyMar 4, 2021 11:49263953
8To N and S [233 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 21:19263845
17Thank you FAtou [88 words]BaboonFeb 9, 2021 12:49263786
9Hi Jessica [190 words]N and SFeb 9, 2021 15:57263786
10N and S [228 words]LinaFeb 9, 2021 17:05263786
19It's more dangerous than people may think [254 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 14:57263786
8Very good points [213 words]LinaFeb 10, 2021 22:17263786
7Very true [120 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 15:22263786
7N and S [471 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 21:09263786
4N and S reply [645 words]jessica (canada)Feb 12, 2021 18:23263786
7Hi A very concerned reader [516 words]N and SFeb 17, 2021 16:51263786
3WEAK [23 words]alanaSep 12, 2021 07:00263786
48To Fatou/Adja, to the immigration officers of Western countries, to this forum readers. To those googling "I'm in love with a Muslim man" [812 words]A very concerned readerFeb 9, 2021 00:36263772
17I wish I could raise a toast to this [174 words]AliciaFeb 10, 2021 01:16263772
11Cheers! [230 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 14:16263772
5Let's raise* that toast!!! [23 words]A very concerned readerFeb 10, 2021 15:11263772
11I could not agree more! [178 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 01:10263772
19Why they don't like Christianity [713 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 06:28263772
10Big hypocrite [222 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 09:16263772
14Hijab and the hypocrisy of it [144 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 15:13263772
4Where is the Truth Hiding When No One is Looking for it [233 words]M ToveyFeb 11, 2021 21:35263772
14My insight about Islam and why a Non Muslim woman can fit in this ideology [648 words]A very concerned readerFeb 14, 2021 00:18263772
2Why Non Muslim women can't fit* [14 words]A very concerned readerFeb 14, 2021 01:18263772
18Their lives and hearts are so dark [102 words]Ella AustraliaFeb 14, 2021 23:54263772
11Why they don't like Christianity [19 words]Lisa D.Feb 15, 2021 12:35263772
1Why Eternal Fulfillment is of Love/Respect is Hard to See [282 words]M ToveyFeb 15, 2021 18:02263772
7Well said, Islam has straight jacketed itself into self destruction. [139 words]PrasthantFeb 15, 2021 18:30263772
12Same feeling here, Ella, while we make great efforts to integrate their culture [144 words]A very concerned readerFeb 16, 2021 02:18263772
2Basis of Anthipathy Towards Judeo-Christian (Messianic) Beliefs [220 words]M ToveyFeb 19, 2021 21:55263772
3Great Truth teachings on Islam [99 words]SherryFeb 24, 2021 11:56263772
5Veils for answering the nature's call, the Muslim men's right to rape the unveiled women [338 words]A very concerned readerFeb 26, 2021 06:33263772
4Muslim dislike Christian / Christians have POWER over them [7 words]BrendaSep 17, 2021 15:28263772
7Hijab should not be used to exemplify diversity [274 words]PrashantFeb 7, 2021 01:39263720
21To Fatou: we wish we were discarded by your men!/ Thank us for warning you that they don't respect you either [335 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 15:12263711
10Ladies here last comment [146 words]FatouFeb 6, 2021 09:56263707
Rat or not? [106 words]MimiAug 16, 2021 15:20263707
10Muslim Men will NEVER Marry a 53 year old Woman [243 words]AliciaAug 16, 2021 21:34263707
Female 53 years old. [102 words]MimiAug 17, 2021 14:42263707
5Hijab should not be presented as a symbol of diversity [159 words]PrashantFeb 6, 2021 01:47263699
7Hijab as a political statement [45 words]Lisa D.Feb 9, 2021 15:10263699
4Lina reply [90 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 17:30263683
12Fatou: We wish they discard us!/ you should thank us for warning you [247 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 14:57263683
4I would just leave it be [64 words]AjdaFeb 8, 2021 02:01263683
11Hmmm Fatou we all wonder [66 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 11:51263683
5Ajda [7 words]FatouFeb 8, 2021 15:39263683
11Fatou's self-righteousness stinks [110 words]PrashantFeb 9, 2021 18:12263683
3Married [25 words]To Jessica canadaFeb 11, 2021 10:11263683
5Big hypocrites too!!! [263 words]Lana(USA)Feb 11, 2021 10:51263683
9Religion over Science [77 words]Lisa DFeb 11, 2021 12:35263683
5Gifts [12 words]LinaFeb 11, 2021 15:48263683
19Marriage means nothing in Islam, my dear [101 words]A very concerned readerFeb 11, 2021 18:04263683
6Reply about Married- and why are you using my name [143 words]jessica (canada)Feb 12, 2021 16:23263683
13Islam is the worst, Muslim countries will never prosper they just get worse [87 words]AliciaFeb 12, 2021 17:33263683
6Alicia is right about Islam [96 words]PrashantFeb 15, 2021 18:42263683
6Cannot say Merry Christmas in here. [43 words]Jessica (Canada)Feb 15, 2021 22:34263683
9You're very right, that's why our women need to be aware of this [300 words]A very concerned readerFeb 15, 2021 23:12263683
7Big thank you and my best wishes always [263 words]A very concerned readerFeb 15, 2021 23:37263683
2Rat?? [99 words]MimiAug 18, 2021 05:17263683
1ROP celebrations in Dhaka [184 words]PrashantApr 5, 2022 21:00263683
Another violent incidence in Tel Aviv [122 words]PrashantApr 7, 2022 21:03263683
14The true face of a real Muslim Woman [1019 words]AliciaFeb 5, 2021 13:58263674
21To Fatou: Muslimahs are deceived too. Are you surprised? [294 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 13:14263670
4We all wait for Fatou reply to your comments [11 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 11:56263670
2Lina [144 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 09:16263662
1Explain to concerned reader [145 words]FatouFeb 5, 2021 09:08263661
16Your points [64 words]LinaFeb 5, 2021 13:54263661
21Correction and more unreplied questions [209 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 14:43263661
14Purpose of the board [233 words]LinaFeb 5, 2021 17:34263661
8Things that happen in males parties and when nobody is watching [39 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 20:01263661
12I'll take what I want from your culture and insult the rest [125 words]JeffFeb 5, 2021 20:44263661
16The reasons why Fatou is here and the controversial respect topic [290 words]A very concerned readerFeb 6, 2021 16:03263661
3Lina and other who take this tone in comments [107 words]FatouFeb 7, 2021 09:55263661
7Don't forget [144 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:38263661
6Thank you [125 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:48263661
5Or better still [18 words]LinaFeb 8, 2021 14:50263661
8So true, Lina [123 words]A concerned readerFeb 8, 2021 23:15263661
3Thanks to you too! [23 words]A very concerned readerFeb 8, 2021 23:52263661
8That is why Muslims (and the reader Fatou) need education [157 words]PrashantFeb 9, 2021 17:59263661
26Muslim Marriages the REAL WAY [1437 words]AliciaFeb 4, 2021 23:03263645
12What a good picture of Pakistani societal system [281 words]A very concerned readerFeb 5, 2021 13:58263645
7Yes muslim will never like non-muslim [86 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 12:07263645
6This part is so true Alicia [387 words]jessica (canada)Feb 8, 2021 12:45263645
1Pipes Response/Our Religion [36 words]FatouFeb 4, 2021 16:31263624
3Teaching basic Arabic to wannabe Arabs our dear Fatou [241 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 5, 2021 14:14263624
4Guiding the perplexed our dear Fatou and deciphering the Arabic language [97 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 5, 2021 14:29263624
1Our dear Fatou and the word الصلوة/الصلاة (PRAYER) in the Qur'an [398 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 6, 2021 07:50263624
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AjdaFeb 8, 2021 09:53263624
23About arranged marriages: what Western women must know [299 words]A very concerned readerFeb 3, 2021 22:30263589
19In response to Fatou 2: It's all about respect [123 words]A very concerned readerFeb 3, 2021 17:55263578
10A very concerned reader: The correct translation of صلى الله عليه وسلم is not the PBUH nonsense [158 words]
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dhimmi no moreFeb 3, 2021 15:07263571

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