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Submitted by Arvind Madhavan (India) , Apr 2, 2006 at 04:24
John,
Your assumption of eternal peace and brotherhood prevailing after establishment of economic zones is very much flawed.
You see, whenever muslims are involved, the key factor deciding war is not economic factors, but Islam, its prejudices, its hatred for other religions and its arrogance in assuming a global Caliphate.
Look at the Saudis, they are rich, but did that make them better human beings????
No, they are still pretty much the barbarians they were during the 7th century, if not more.
Israel left behind greenhouses for the Palestinians to exploit when she pulled out, but what happened to them? They were all destroyed, thanks to the blind hatred of the Palestinians against Israelis.
The money you suggest as investment would be better served by dumping it into the sea.
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