69 million page views

Comment to iasius

Reader comment on item: Bush Declares War on Radical Islam
in response to reader comment: Comments on Iasius statements

Submitted by Don (India), Nov 7, 2005 at 01:44

Your Quote
"Jesus Christ (IESAPL) called himself son of god. But so has every other monarch since ancient Egypt, because the king was believed to be god-incarnate on earth. Christ (IESAPL) also called himself king of Jews............"

Jesus Christ was revolutionary in calling God "Abba", (Father) and showing us that God is love and we are not merely slaves to him. Even you, if you strive hard to be holy and upright, you can be called son of God...it is a title given to show how close to God you have become. The New Testament mentions many time son of God"..we can all become sons of God. When Jesus taught his disciples to pray, he told them to pray us "Our Father who are in heaven...."

Your Quote

"Unfortunately, there ISN'T "much history" to prove historicity of Christ (IESAPL)! That is the problem"...

The Jewish people know that the Ark of Covenant is lost completely. Till now nobody knows where it is. Can we say the Ark of the Covenant didn't exist jsut because nothing is written about how it is lost or where it is? In the Old Testament, Queen SHeba is mentioned in few words in the Book of Kings..Does that make the Jewish scholar to doubt she didn't exist as that was his only "Jewish" source?...

Your Quote

"synoptic gospels, which latter are themselves too replete with contradiction, inconsistency and prevarication to be even remotely reliable.........."

They are nottoo replete with contradictions. The Gospels are Testimonies as seen by four different writers and even though there are minor differences in writting the Gospel totally agree on Christ's virgin birth, mission, crucifixion and resurrection.

Your Quote

"Zoroaster: virgin mother Dugdha; circa 1,900 BCE
7. Mithra: virgin mother; born in a stable on 25th December; circa 600 BCE; resurrected around Easter"

Are you saying that Isaiah, the Jewish prophet was teaching Mithraism? It was Isaiah who propehsised about virgin birth. That means the Jewish people were also practicing Mithraism or they adultered their Torah with some Mithraic beliefs?

Your Quote
"As for spreading "Christian Love" around the world, less said the better! People are becoming increasingly aware of precisely how it was spread and what it really means for their religious, cultural, even economic freedoms"

Obviosuly you don't have the slightest idea of what the missionaries are doing? have you not heard of individual missionaries who went to the jungles of Africa and Asia risking their lives to preach and serve those people? If there is any political agenda, why waste all your time picking thrown babies from garbages, touching lepers, the sick, the blind? If that was political agenda, then mother Teresa must be the most cunning and politically motivated woman on this earth!!

Your Quote

"As for spreading "Christian Love" around the world, less said the better! People are becoming increasingly aware of precisely how it was spread and what it really means for their religious, cultural, even economic freedoms"

Are the Muslism doing it? are the Buddist doing it? Do you love people? Do you like to help the sick? why don't you get up and help if you have love for people instead of critisizing someone when he does it?!....If we want politcal agenda we have the George Bushs or the US department of State...we don't need to use religion...remember Jesus' words ("Give to Caesar the things that are Caesars and to God the things that are God's")..this in its own merit was revolutioanary in teaching to separate religion from state unlike other religions who want to join politisc with their God and how religoin and state became separate.

You said

"Was it for the Christian acts of spreading ‘genuine' love and affording ‘unmotivated relief' that the late Pope John Paul II went around the world tendering apologies? No, it was because we are becoming aware of the inhumanity the Church has – and is, albeit in a cosmetically altered way – perpetrating on humankind"....

It is true the Church had it;s own dark ages.. So what is wrong in apologising? isn't it a civilsed way? It seems nothing can satsify you people..if the chruch doesnot apologise you will label it "arrogant" and will cry day and night for the chruch to apologize and when the chruch does that again you blame it for what it has done in the past!! i guess nothing can satisfy you.

You said

"Unfortunately, some religions just cannot evolve because they are stuck not on any genuinely profound thought but on what someone at some point of antiquity said was ‘the truth'."

Jesus Christ said "love your neighbour as thyself"..."love one another" as all the laws of the Prophets are covered by that...can you please "evolve" taht message?..beause the entire message of Jesus was based on that do you want that message to evolve? do u think it is not going with today's modern life and trends? do you really want that message to be changed adn to be changed chaged or "evolved" to what?

Can you please tell us what the Chruch is perpetrating on human kind?

Your Quote

"We are sure from non-Quranic sources that Muhammad (PBUH) was a historical person, but can we honestly and objectively say the same thing about Christ (IESAPL)?"

Well you are saying Muhammed was historical...But Muhammed mentions Jesus many times and acknowleged him..if Muhammed is historical to you and if he Muahmmed mentions Jesus and says "off all the Prophets i'm close to Jesus" hat does that teach you? does that teach you that that also makes Jesus Christ historical??

Best wishes,


Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

Follow Daniel Pipes

Facebook   Twitter   RSS   Join Mailing List

All materials by Daniel Pipes on this site: © 1968-2024 Daniel Pipes. daniel.pipes@gmail.com and @DanielPipes

Support Daniel Pipes' work with a tax-deductible donation to the Middle East Forum.Daniel J. Pipes

(The MEF is a publicly supported, nonprofit organization under section 501(c)3 of the Internal Revenue Code.

Contributions are tax deductible to the full extent allowed by law. Tax-ID 23-774-9796, approved Apr. 27, 1998.

For more information, view our IRS letter of determination.)