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in response to reader comment: Pro-truth - if I may say it so.

Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Jul 2, 2012 at 22:19

Ianus, you let some big ones go by here:

/ I am pro-truth (truth being correspondence between words and reality)

Perception of truth is perception of reality. It has nothing to do with words - words are secondary. Consciousness perceives truth - and in human beings - we can then verbalise it but do not have to. Suppose as a good non-muslim - you have a pet dog (I don't know if you can afford one as there are apparently so many poor starving Poles around - but if you did..) The dog looks at you - he sees who you are - he perceives his truth. He knows you are not an ice-cream or a dog kennel. He doesn't say anything (unless you have a very clever dog.) He's very happy to see you - he knows you won't kill and eat him - which you might if you lived a lot further to the south east

Words are simply not involved - but conscious recognition is. Same for humans but on a much higher level of course - conscious recognition first - and then hopefully action. Words are optional - but if proffered - should reflect the truth.

b/ I am against simplistic explanations

even though truth is often very simple

c/ I am for rational doubt

good

d/ In case a general theory is contradicted by a single fact I am for rejecting the theory as false.

or only partially correct - i.e. might be on the right track but incomplete.

HITLER- making a monster of him is

a/not true because he has done good things too, even if propaganda never admits anything good when it targets someone;

b/ is too simplistic because it omits lots of things that are relevant to understand him ;

c/ must be doubted because it reflects Communist and Soviet and Western propaganda whereby it is worth remembering that the Western propaganda has borrowed so much from the Communist propaganda;

d/ there are more than a few instances where Hitler did things which no monster would have done. E.g. war time laws foresaw execution for collaboration. Many Dutch, French and Norwegian collaborationists were not executed but imprisoned.

"....Not Islamism, Islam ! Islamism is such an unnatural technical word, a neologism with a rather perfidious double meaning. Islam is what we simply mean, don't we?"

yes - as Islam seems it can't help itself but to metamorphose into virulent Islamism - whenever it thinks it has half a chance. Better to knock it on the head.

Submitting....

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