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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Jun 9, 2012 at 22:21

Mr Farhad, whose country on the extreme eastern edge of Europe recently hosted Eurovision tries its best to pretend it has European values , writes:

"The occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh by Armenians is the injustice of the world which turns a blind eye to it. "

Better ask neighbouring muslim Turkey - they know a thing or two about this subject.

"..If you are so nice people, why do mention that you will capture the whole world?! "

We want to spur on the competition?

Actually, I haven't heard any Westerner leaders say that - can you give us a specific example ? Most of them have their hands full managing their own countries. But sorry, if it is true - how dare we be so unkind - the only people intent on conquering the world and who say so are weird, excited little men in strange costumes with a bizarrely twisted cosmology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aYDfACr-y4s#t=0s

, http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aYDfACr-y4s#t=0s

"If the occupation of Karabakh and other territories of moslem countries is the proof of the weakness of Allah, why don't you look back at history when Spain was under the occupation of Moslem Arabs, when Byzantine Empire was defeated by Arabs and destroyed by the Ottoman Empire and half of Europe was ruled by Turkey for over 600 years and so on and on? "

Not very logical is it? If muslim invaders were expelled from Spain - then you have to say that allah's will prevailed. Are you complaining about it? BTW, of course it's nice to imagine yourself on the 'winning' side - but at least present facts - Turkey never ruled half of Europe for 600 years.

"That's because those times Moslems used Islamic rules in their lives. But now they are blindly following European traditions."

In what way ? European countries are multi-party democracies, give women equal rights, allow freedom of belief, freedom of expression and freedom of assembly, the right to protest, free press, universal education and access to health careers etc

Which muslim countries successfully blindly follow these traditions? And if they are - why are you complaining about it?

"...Christian's God and Moslems' Allah are the same. .."

So how could Christian Spain who prayed to their God have won over the forces of Allah?

"We just call and comprehend Him differently."

This fundamental question is well covered. But first you must define your terms. It is a question of whether you can say you are worshipping the same being when you have such different understandings of its nature. The Koran points to a sadistic anthropomorphic deity more along the lines of a Roman deity than the Buddhist and Christian idea of a superconscious Ground of Being.

There's not too many Christian, Hindu or Buddhists families that recognise a deity that requires the blood sacrifice of lambs in their backyards each year.

Or a deity who thinks about muslims that: " Ye are the best of Peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. "


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