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Russia as historical bulwark against Islam vs. the US as historical enabler and ally of Islam

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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Jun 12, 2012 at 18:56

the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan wrote :

> Who sent the money to where they think they could make more money laundering their ill-gotten fortunes in a capitalist system and enjoy living in freedom and relative safety? Russians wasn't it?<

Many have doubts as to their real nationality. But the problem is different in two aspects.First, creating capitalism in a country without long primary accumulation of capital means you create criminals' capitalism as only criminals can overnight get enough money to buy factories and resources you sell. Second, the West seems an ideal place for money laundering,doesn't it? One has the impression that in essence it works as a huge money laudnering machine. Money doesn't stink, does it?Whetehr it comes from a cannibalist dictator of a Central African state or from a wanted Russian embezzler is irrelevant.The money makes the West both happy and blind. Who cares about 5 mln homeless children in Russia when a Russian billionaire "invests" his $ billions in a US or Swiss or British bank?

> They don't dream of occupation by the US now <

Has it become a nightmare like everywhere else in Eastern Europe yet ?

>- and the EU wasn't even a dream in 1941, so - no.<

In 1941 there were more urgent tasks for Estonian,Latvian and Lithuanian fascists to accomplish ...e.g. exterminating the Jews and Russians.

> No - not at all. Why shouldn't I call him a pig and I'm sure people have- but he was just not as ruthless a pig as Stalin <

And Stalin won the war for survival and he hasn't. And Stalin exterminated the old opportunist nomenclatura and created a rigid military-industrial complex that withstood the most efficient and ruthless war machine on earth. And war is the fatehr of all things.In 1991 the Russians learned what "Vae victis" really means when their forniers were pushed back to the 17th centuries and themselves were confronted with an economic and social genocide.

Had Krushoov or you led the USSR in 1941, I am sure you would have won the war as successfully as Petain did in France. Why be ruthless if posterity may be angry at you? Better to do what the Jews did in Estonia in 1941. Dig peacefully the grave as told by the Estonian Polizei , lie down and be shot dead without complaining about anything.

> Ok - it would be useful for you to pigeonhole me as' a 'neo liberal'. Let's see:

"Neoliberalism is a contemporary trend in politics and economics advocating economic liberalizations, free trade and open markets. Neoliberalism entails privatization of state-owned enterprises, deregulation of markets, and promotion of the private sector's role in society. It is informed by neoclassical or Austrian economics.

Neoliberals envision individuals primarily as market participants, and states as enforcers for markets. The idea is that unregulated market capitalism will deliver efficiency, growth and widespread prosperity for all. In this view the 'dead hand' of the state saps initiative and discourages enterprise."

Wrong.<

What's wrong about that definition to your mind ?

>From what you've written I could finger you as a closet Stalinist. No doubt I'd be wrong as well, not knowing you personally or having any knowledge of the legacy you leave in society.<

Before the war my father was a journeyman , if you know what that means. It's the lowest social level we had. Stalin gave him some land and an opportunity to raise decently and educate his children. In my uncle's room there were two pictures on the wall - that of the Holy Virgin and Stalin. He was a religious person and loved Stalin for what he had done for him. The system that was fraudulently imposed here in 1989 hasn't done anything to me, my family or most people I know. In fact it has done its best to push me down back to the position of a semi-serf in which my father had been. Social regress and economic serfdom and demographic decay with few super rich and privileged bastards praised by corrupt and lying Western media are all we have "achieved" thanks to the neoliberal regime change. A new level of serfdom as someone has aptly put it.

> In any case - we are straying far from the topic of this blog which is the exploits of another even more insidious pig - and are at risk of boring other readers.<

I am far from sure we are straying from the subject at all!

When you see a country - that for 600 years since the glorious battle on the Kulikovo Polje in 1380 has been the impregnable bulwark of Christianity against the onslaught of evil Islam; that for 600 years has been pushing and extending the frontiers of Christianity at the expense of Islam , reconquering one territory after another from jihadist occupation - when you see this country suddenly ruined, looted, enslaved, impoverished,humiliated and abused by a certain other country that has never fought a singe real war against jihad; that has never reconquered a single square inch from dar al-Islam on behalf of Christianity despite its constant ranting on how Christian it is ; that has always befriended and enabled jihad against the other country, that has recreated the Islamic yoke in two European provinces which Russia once had freed from Islam ; and when you now see the other country using the most aggressive and regressive forces of Islam to promote its policy of controllable chaos and is going to use them against a third big non-Moslem country; and when you observe with the growing weakness of Russia the rapid rise and triumphs of Islam, then ALL considerations on how exactly , by whom and in whose interests the ruin, depopulation and plunder of Russia was organized must be quite relevant,useful and necessary.

If you think otherwise, then maybe you have been taught an alternative history of our continent ? Maybe in your history books Bosnia and Kosovo are not yet purely Moslem de-Christianized states and the US military base Bondsteel near Urosevac which soon will be sold to such a staunchly Moslem state as Turkey hasn't been built yet? Maybe heroin transported in US planes from US-controlled Afghanistan hasn't been produced and distributed across the continent yet to kill and ruin more kafiri sons and daughters to enrich the Moslem and US heroin barons ? Maybe the rapid re-Islamization of Central Asia has nothing to do with US strategic plans? I leave all the other alternative and counterfactual history to you. I tell you what I see as real. If it is discordant with your doctrine, then I admit you have a right to stick to it.

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