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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Jun 6, 2012 at 22:53

Mr Ismail writes,

"If you have not seen the peace in Islam ..."

Unfortunately it seems that only some muslims have seen the peace in islam. How many of those actually experience true peace is a different matter altogether"

"it's because you haven't studied it besides from it's critics. "

A critic should be treated as a friend - it's quite useless getting approval from those who seek to be similarly approved.

"Didn't it strike you that great parts of the world hates US and regards US as bullies, .."

No, no at all. And you surely can't think or even suggest that droves of muslims from Pakistan and all over the muslim world who flock to the US - actually hate their new country and its people, can you? Otherwise they'd be two-faced, lying hypocrites wouldn't they? Your clearly unbiased and well-informed comment indicates you are happier living in South Africa than the USA,

"...with no compassion to humanity. Invading countries, "

Hmmm, I guess you could ask the people of Pakistan who were receiving US aid literally by the boat load after their floods - or the people of South Sudan, Haiti and even China - in fact wherever disaster strikes. They'd be able to help you in your obviously genuine enquiry.

"...dictating to the world what is right and wrong, "

Does the US interfere in South Africa's domestic politics? Perhaps you should refer your complaints to your local representative.

".....securing others resources for your own elete? "

What 'elete' are you talking about? What resources?? America TRADES with other countries - they buy and sell. Just like you do. They don't force people to sell or force people to buy. Problem with that?

"You propagate and impose your democracy, "

Democracy is not imposed on anyone. Wise people - like ex-Soviet states for example - grab the chance when it is offered to them. Any country that deliberately chooses a totalitarian system of any kind eventually ends up reaping the rewards of their stupidity

but you know well that if any country democratically elects Islam as its constitution, they will see your wrath."

Actually - those countries create their own internal conflicts - between those who like 'religious' fascism and those who like personal freedom.

"...the reality is that Christianity hides behind "love", but the Christian army of today is by far directly responsible for more killings than any of it's "puppet governments in the Muslim world".

Which Christian army exists? Europe is multicultural, multi-ethnic. So is' the United States.Muslims serve in the military in both countries, so do Sikhs, Jews, Christians and I'm sure there'd be Hindus and atheists. So forget your pigeonholing of one particular religion you dislike ( a little less than the one you really hate)

"Why do you criticize muhammed's sword and praise your own? "

If I held a gun to your head and said - "you better believe in this guy that I've heard about - a former caravan raider , self-proclaimed 'prophet' who talked to an angel in a cave and flew on a winged donkey with the tail of a peacock to heaven , had a nine year old wife amongst eleven others - otherwise I'll kill you" - what would you do? This is pretty much the choice offered to Christian North Affricans in the 8th century. OK, being a muslim - of course you'd believe it - but do you really think those people had any praise for Mo's sword?

"...Why are your values better than muhammed's? "

Seek and ye shall find.

"..Is it because your "prophet" wears a suite and tie and sits in his office and doesn't do what it has instructed his barbaric soldiers to do."

Obviously you think you're waxing eloquently here - but you really are sounding like you have lost the plot. What 'prophet' is it that wears a suit and tie that everyone is supposed to recognise? Obama? Obama is the democratically elected president of one country.

"...Your own soldiers testify to your own human rights violation"

Yet muslims say and do very little about the far more numerous and flagrant human rights violations by muslims against non-muslims (and even other muslims)

"Your propaganda channels sugar coat your brutality, the world is overpowered by your military might and is forcefully enslaved to do as you want. "

You sound like a whining, self-righteous prima donna pretending to be a victim. Who is' enslaved again? And to whom - the USA, Canada, Luxembourg... New Zealand, Latvia ??? Russia? Exactly who?

"Why are thousands entering Islam in the west, without sharia governance? "

Generally weak minded , naive people who often have met with unfortunate circumstances in one way or another - who see the tribal and relatively exotic nature of the cult - are tempted to try it out. Unlike Islam - we allow for people to believe whatever they want. However, many of the thousands you quote eventually leave after they realise they're just trapping themselves in a cage and eventually move on, having heard all the Arabian BS and realised the rites and rituals and fables just don't cut it. In fact - many muslims who live in the West and open their eyes have exactly the same experience.

"...They realize that Islam is is a guidance to every aspect of life including rules of war. You only read verses and traditions related to war in Islam. You can't see the full package."

Do you know the story of the frog in the well?

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