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ABUSING VERSES TO ASSOCIATE WITH THE PAGANS

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Submitted by Mohamad Nozzi (Singapore), May 13, 2009 at 12:07

The following are the extracted message extracted from this very clown that abuses the Holy Quran to associate with the unclean things, the pagans:

I must congratulate once again for being a proper Muslim and learning your Koranic lessons well. But as for not touching our unclean parts for fun, that is something Allah has made halal for Muslims. Allah allows Muslims to take and keep non-Muslims girls for fun. Maybe you are not aware of this law of Allah, so read these verses:

004.024 YUSUFALI: Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess:

004.003 YUSUFALI: If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.

I ask you a very simple question. Can muslims marry with non-muslims? Certainly! All muslims will oppose to fight their muslim children to marry with non-muslims, the unclean things. As we are told in the Holy Quran that we must not associate or to marry with non-muslims, Quran 4:3 and 4:24 must be meant for muslims among themselves.

I do not see it very funny for these verses that are meant for muslims to associate with muslim people themselves instead of to the non-muslims since muslim could have more than one wife. The same is to Muhammad and that he also had more than a wife. The phrase, Marry women of your choice Two or Three or Four, in Quran 4:3 gives us the stronger hint that we, muslims, could marry them and these certainly are those muslim women instead of non-muslims since all non-muslims have to be treated as unclean. The phrase, to prevent you from doing injustice, in Quran 4:3 gives us the very strong implication that we, muslims, will not be guilty or sin when we touch them and these undoubtedly refer to muslim women that we marry to. As we, muslims, marry with one or two or three or four women, these women would be our captive and that we would not be guilty with Allah or anybody since we have legally accepted them as our wives. Your interpretation for Quran 4:3 between muslims and non-muslim women would cause us to be guilty eternity since we have associated daily with these unclean things, the pagans. How could these unclean things, non-muslim women, could cause us to be clean and justice especially it is mentioned in Quran 4:3, "(that these women should keep us)...more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice".

What a beast, you Plato, is since you want us to associate with unclean thing, the non-muslim women? Unless they are muslim women and they have legally married with us, we, moderate muslims, would then have relationship with them. Don't tell me that you would encourage muslims to marry with non-muslims! What's a silly teaching! Even if you, Plato, call your non-muslim daughter, non-muslim mother, non-muslim girl friend to marry to me, I will condemn you, the beast that I would rather keep me clean to marry with muslim women rather than touching the unclean things.

Quran 4:3 and 4:24 are meant for muslim people to marry with muslim people. However, you have again abused Quran 4:3 and 4:24 to encourage muslims to marry or to have secret relationship with non-muslims. Disgusting! Only you, the unclean, would think of that. We, muslims, are certainly aware that we can only marry with muslims and we could enjoy with muslims since all of us are clean. However, bear in mind, not to think wrongly, we, moderate muslims only associate with those muslims when we are legally married and that they are willing and so we are. Please kindly visit muslim family that has more than three wives whether they are forced to marry. Instead, most of them are willing even Quran 4;3 and 4;24 establish the legality of marriage for more than three muslim women in a family. Don't debate on this issue since Allah approves. If you, Plato, is jealous of muslims to have more than three muslim women, you, too, should be converted to muslim.

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