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Mohammad, CPA: As a slave of Allah how can you believe in freedom??

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Submitted by Plato (India), Mar 23, 2009 at 11:20

Mohammad, you wrote:

>>I truly believe in the True Freedom of every people, every where in the World.<<

If you really believe what you have written then you cannot be a Muslim. Allah makes it clear humans are His slaves, and slaves have no freedom, except do what the master orders. Satan disobeyed Him and look what happened to him. Christians worship Jesus, Hindus worship innumerable idols, Budhists worship none for which Allah has reserved some horrible punishment on Judgment Day. So what is this freedom you are talking about, Mohammed, CPA?

>>Every person must be Free in his Speech, Thoughts, Business & Profession. There must not be any Power to curtail the Freedom of every people.<<

Does this freedom you talk of extend to joking about Allah or questioning Muhammad's actions? The Prophet had people who criticized him whether they were old men or a mother with a new-born child murdered. Your prophet was not an exemplar of freedom of speech. I am referring to Kaf Bin Ashraf and Asma Bint Marwan both assassinated on the prophet's orders.

The Koran also puts a gag on people:

005.101- 102 YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.

Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.

>> Every person has every Right to choose & follow his Religion, Life style but within the Laws of the Land.<<

The Koran tells exactly the opposite:

004.089 YUSUFALI: They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay

003.085 YUSUFALI: If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).

009.033 YUSUFALI: It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).

If the law of the land tells you that you can follow only Islam what kind of freedom are you talking about?

>>As a Muslim, I truly believe in Material & Spiritual Progress. We must have a good Life & Good Standard Here and also a very good Eternal Life in Hereafter.<<

You are again up against your Koran which informs you differently. As a muslim you are expected to love the hereafter and consider this life to be play and amusement.

006.032 YUSUFALI: What is the life of this world but play and amusement? But best is the home in the hereafter, for those who are righteous. Will ye not then understand?

014.003 YUSUFALI: Those who love the life of this world more than the Hereafter, who hinder (men) from the Path of Allah and seek therein something crooked: they are astray by a long distance

>>In our Muslim term, we say the Great Propgress in this Duniya & Akhira i.e. that means in this World & also after our death in the Hereafter.<<

Can you point to any verse in the Koran which asks you to make material progress in this world. Muslims are allowed to make material in this world by taking booty from unbelievers:

008.069 YUSUFALI: But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

008.041 YUSUFALI: And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer,- if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing,- the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things

>>Please don't misunderstand me. We need Progress in this World & also Thereafter, not the Material Progress Here in this World only, we do hope the Progress in the Next World to come. We need Progress in both places. That is Islam & the Teaching of Holy Quran<<

Read 6:32 again where it says life is play and amusement.

>>I have read the Full Translation of Holy Quran and try to understand its True Messages with my heart. I am very Independent in my thoughts and it is very Clear. I don't follow any Scholar or Religious Teacher for my Guidance & Knowledge. <<

If you have tried to understood the Koran can you please let your readers know what is the true meaning of verses like:

002.216 YUSUFALI: Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. [AGAINST WHOM?]

009.111 YUSUFALI: Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.

009.029 YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

>>My Guidance is my God- Allah & His Last Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). I love many people, many books & Magazines but for my Religion, my Allah & my Prophet are the Real Guide.<<

The Koran says Allah chooses whom to guide or MISGUIDE:

006.125 YUSUFALI: Those whom Allah (in His plan) willeth to guide,- He openeth their breast to Islam; those whom He willeth to leave straying,- He maketh their breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies: thus doth Allah (heap) the penalty on those who refuse to believe.

Considering this verse can you be absolutely sure that Allah has not misguided you?

>> I am not a Blind follower of any other persons. I am very careful in my Choice & Freedom.<<

From this I understand that you have chosen very carefully who to follow blindly one person, Muhammad. Following anyone blindly means that even if you see that the person you are following behaves unethically, or immorally you would still not reject him because you are 1) blind to these faults 2) you have never heard of any defects in the person 3) you approve of his behaviour 4) They are all lies concocted by the enemies of Islam. Consider these facts (as recorded by believing Muslims):

Prophet Muhammad had many people murdered because they criticized him like Kaf bin Ashraf, Asma Bint Marwan (Ibn Ishaq, Bukhari)

Muhammad had a man tortured and killed to get his hands on some treasure he thought he had: Kinana Bin Rabi (Ibn Ishaq)

Muhammad had all the males of the tribe of Banu Quraiza beheaded on a flimsy excuse of betrayal. (Ibn Ishaq)

Muhammad took a nine-year-old to bed when he was about fifty-three. (Ibn Ishaq, Bukhari)

Muhammad received special dispensations from Allah to marry as many women as he wished and take booty. (Koran)

Muhammad distributed female slave girls as presents to his companions (Bukhari)

Is it 1, 2, 3, or 4 in your case?

Regards

Plato

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