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Nozzi: Allah's sense of what is good and bad is seriously flawed

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Submitted by Plato (India), May 4, 2009 at 07:24

Nozzi, you write:

>>Allah did not/does not force anybody to believe him and the Last Judgment Day and it is up to non-muslims to decide their own choice. However, if they choose to remain as pagans, they would certainly perish during the last judgment day.<<

Very poor logic again, Nozzi. Allah does not force anyone to Islam BUT if they remain pagans He will toast them in his oven for eternity. What is your notion of free choice Nozzi?

>>You have to bear in mind that you are buddhist. Would you like someone to restrict your freedom? Certainly you would not!<<

No I would like NOT like restrictions on my freedom, which is exactly what your Allah and his Messenger want infidels to do. They and Muslims want everyone to believe only in Islam. Allah does not give any freedom of belief for He says:

009.033 YUSUFALI: It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).

Why does Allah want to restrict our freedom?

>>What if Allah forces you to believe in him and the Last Judgment Day, you might rebel against him.<<

Of course pagans like me reject Allah exactly for the reasons you cite i.e. He wants to enforce belief in Him as proclaimed in 9:33, I have quoted above. He wants everyone to believe on in Islam.

>>As Allah is the most merciful, he demands your repentance and he is merciful to wait patiently that any of his muslim fellows could reach out to you for your repentance.<<

What is the great crime we polytheists have committed for Allah to ask for our repentance? Merely worshipping some idols cannot be considered a great crime. We bow down to a stone figure but otherwise behave ethically, but for Allah this is an unforgivable crime. Allah has a poor concept of what is right and wrong.

Muslims invade other nations who have not harmed them (Persia, India, Spain, Egypt) and take women and children as captives to be used as sex slaves for which your merciful Allah has given permission in the Koran:

004.003 YUSUFALI: If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.

033.050 YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee;

004.024 YUSUFALI: Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess:

What your right hand possess are the slaves you buy or capture. Does Allah say anywhere whether these poor slave girls should be asked for their consent to have sex with them. In fact even if their husbands are alive Muslims can still have forced sex with them. Read this hadith:

Bukhari Book #34, Hadith #432:Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: that while he was sitting with Allah's Apostle he said,
"O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of Booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interrupt us?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence

In this hadith Muhammad clearly allows his men to have sex with their captive women. Show me in any hadith or verse where Muslims are asked to seek consent of the slave girls before sleeping with them.

Your Allah wants repentance for the silly crime of bowing down to a piece of stone but Muslims raping slaves is not a sin requiring atonement. Allah's sense of what is good and bad is seriously flawed.

Regards

Plato.

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