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Submitted by Ibrahim (India), Feb 7, 2009 at 03:32

The first time I have heard this statement. So, I guess "Moslems" came from Mars. Muslims are the inheritors of the lands of their ancestors. For example, Arabs converted to Islam and thus Arabia is Muslim land. Indonesians converted to Islam and thus Indonesia is Muslim land, I'm sure you get the point.

No, its a very old statement. Muslims forced or fooled people into Islam. I hope you get the point.

Theft and Robbery? Surely you couldn't be European making such claims. Without going into the history of theft and robbery, I will ask, what nation on EARTH has not been at one point of time or another colonized and brutalized by Europeans, Christian and "Jew"? Now compare that figure to "Moslems".

Absolutely correct, two wrongs don't make a right. What Europeans did was wrong. However does that exonerate Muslims from what they did and are still continuing to do. What Europeans did was out of there racist beliefs but what Muslims did was out of their religious belief. Islam has one specific purpose to subdue and subjugate all the non-Muslim populations of the world into Dhimmitute.

Criminality is in what form? Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, Chechnya, Bosnia, Kashmir, Somalia, Nigeria in present times. Or perhaps when the entire Muslim world what being occupied by Spain, France, Britain, Italy, and Zionist during world war 1 and 2. There is a common denominator in all of these situations. INVASION AND OCCUPATION!!!! How outrageous for a people to resist invasion and occupation! If we counted the Muslim casualties in all of these incursions they would be astronomical. Of course your going to have a few family members pissed after watching there wives, sisters, children, mother's and father's get blown up, raped, humiliated, tortured, turned out, over the decades. There are over 5 million orphans in Iraq! Do you expect them to forget?

As far Iraq is concerned, why do you forget that it was Saddam Hussein who killed millions of Kurds and Shia, gassed them and had his men rape and bleed the women. Chechnya, I really don't know why the Muslims cant live with the Russians? Islam breeds a race of people who are separatist by nature. The Indian subcontinent was divided for the very same reason. Later the Bengalis were tortured maimed and killed by the Pakistani Muslims in the name of Islam. This lead to the formation of another nation which we call Bangladesh. AS far as Kashmir is concerned, the only people who are the problem are the Pakistan sponsored terrorists and the local Hurriyat who are brainwashing the locals to believe that Muslims cannot live with Hindus and hence they need a separate state.

This is not an "Islam against the West" ideology, but when you consider that the West is currently involved in the War in Iraq and Afghanistan, and supports the occupation in Palestine, then it becomes a reality. This is a not a hate for the people of Western nations. This is a reality that the armies of Australia, Britain including Nato, which is a compilation of soldiers around the globe, are actively engaged in the crusade on "terror." This in not the perception of an enemy, but a reality. The resistance in Afghanistan is fighting against the world.

Occupation of Palestine? The Jews were throw out of all the countries in the Middle East and given a small patch of land to live on. They worked hard and today they are the only non-oil producing country in the Mid-East which is prosperous. The So called Palestinians are refugees who have outlived their Refugee status. Afghanistan was a hell hole much before the Americans went there. However I do believe that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were big mistakes in which Americans unnecessarily wasted their resources on people who love to live under dictatorial rule.

This would make an interesting book of fiction because that is exactly what it is. Let me ask, where in the history of the Islamic control of Jerusalem when this annihilation of the Jews took place? Let's first acknowledge that the land was taken from Muslims once before during the Crusades, when ironically, Christian crusaders where murders and pillagers of Muslims, Eastern Christians and Jews. Jews ran to Muslim lands like so many other times in history for safety, how quick they have forgotten. When Muslims retook Jerusalem after 100 years of European rule, what did they do? The West should have taken lessons. There was actually peace in the land, until of course, the crusaders tried again and again to take it back unsuccessfully until the 1900s. Every since then it has only been Hell in the land. History as well as the present proves that there is only peace in the land when Muslims have it and it is the only way peace will return.

The History of Jerusalem is older than the Crusades. It was Jewish land till the time the Jews were forced out of their own land. Furthermore, the biggest Jewish genocide was committed by Muhammad himself when he killed all the Jewish tribes of Yathrib, forced their women and children into sexual slavery. According to the Hadiths around 800 men of Banu Quraiza were beheaded in one night. The only way peace will return to the Middle East is when all the Muslims leave the land they are occupying in the Gaza strip, stop launching attacks into Israeli territory and try and understand the world as it exists today rather than live in the past.

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