3 readers online now  |  69 million page views

Magic Ring syndrome

Reader comment on item: A Saudi Prince's Threat to the Obama Administration
in response to reader comment: TRUE MUSLIMS MUST NOT COUNT THE ATTACK BY OTHERS, WHO CRITICIZE OUR HOLY QURAN, ISLAM, OUR DEAR PROPHET & ALLAH.

Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Feb 12, 2009 at 21:39

Mohammed , CPA writes:

"If the Disbelievers, who may not like our Holy Quran, Islam, Prophet & our God- Allah,
have no business to interfere & talk about our Religion. In this Forum, all Non-Muslims
have got noly One Business- to attack & criticize Holy Quran, Islam, Muslims, their Prophet & Allah."

Ah, the Magic Ring expectation again.
In other words - criticise everything else in the world but put a special magic ring around Muslims to protect them from all criticism!

Muslims migrating to the West have never had to ask serious questions about their beliefs. Criticism of those beliefs is a punishable offence in most of their cultures - even questionably 'progressive' ones like Turkey. And criticism of those beliefs by ex-Muslims - even those living currently in the West - can still be a death sentence. Ask Salman Rushdie or Ayaan Hirshi Ali et al.

This lack of criticism - and therefore lack of a Muslim equivalent of a 'Reformation' - has been and is what is holding these cultures from progress.

One thing that Mr. Mohammed CPA must have noticed in migrating to the US was the people's love for and expectation of personal freedom.
Such freedom gives them the absolute right to discuss ANY subject with whomever they please. Especially when that subject immediately affects their society.

This is so on this website - which presents to the world an example of the hard fought for right of freedom of speech.
That you don't like the darker side of Islam being exposed for what it is is more in keeping with the social mores of your former , presumably Islamic country.

Suggestion: Leave your baggage behind and embrace people's rights to free speech.

It works both ways - if there's anything mentioned in readers' comments that is non-factual - like for example if you know with 100% certainty that Mohammed didn't marry more than a dozen wives and Aiesha wasn't actually 9 when the 53 year old illiterate Arab
married her (after waiting for three years!) - or that the Quraysh tribe was not murdered under his command or that physical evidence has been found of Buraks - then by all means present it to the readers.
I'm sure, given enough proof, reasonably minded people will agree with you and move on to other points of dissension.

"......Why don't you concentrate your mind, Energy & resources for some Constructive jobs. ......"

This website is not the sole obsession of its readers. People do concentrate their mind, energy an resources on things they are concerned about.
One of their concerns might just be the expansion of the size and influence of Muslim 5th column quislings in the readers' own societies. I think you can see that - just as Saudis or even Turks would be concerned with a growing number of people of other faiths in their own societies - if they allowed it to happen.

"..............Do you know the Economic condition of the Americans, Europeans & others? Do you know that more than 4.00 Million people lost their Jobs in 2008 alone in America. I can see with my own eyes the terrible Economic condition of fellow Americans. Many, many Big Companies have gone out of Business before our eyes. Unbelievable but it is a real & true picture of American life......""

True - but that is beside the point and a distraction away from the main topic of this website - which is amongst other things - proving the spurious claims made by islamists and exposing the dark nature of the beast - its superstitions, it's claim of supremacy and the attempts of its most devoted adherents to make that self-proclaimed supremacy a reality in the West.

We know the results of the Judaeo-Christian influence in our societies. We are for the most part happy with it . You must be happy with its practical results too - otherwise you wouldn't have made the effort to migrate and now be living in the USA.

"........Oh Ignorant people of the West ! Don't condemn Holy Quran & Muslims. Uphold the standard of Civilized people, behave like a well educated person. "

Oh ignorant Muslim! I myself do have a degree and I am sure many others here do too. A degree Obtained at a Western university - the same type of Western establishment presumably where the list of educated Muslims you suggest have studied. The same type of institution that has for centuries fostered free enquiry and discussion in all fields.

"Most of the writers in this Blog have not crossed the Colleges, no questions of highier Degrees like PhD or specialized Professional Degrees.

How on earth can you make that assumption? Is it because they dare to criticise what you beleive in ? Therefore they are uneducated? The opposite is true.
In fact people with higher education are more likely to be aware enough to see the dangers posed to western civilization by the threat of Islam. Not the idealized Islam you believe in - but the real one on the ground. The one operating in people's day to day lives in Bosnia, Turkey, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Chechnya etc etc

"I live in the American Society and have never seen any American Friends to attck like this people of this Blog or condemn our Holy Quran, Great Prophet Muhammad "

That's simply because of apathy but more because the truth has not got out enough about the facts of Mohammed's life and the true politico-religious aims of Islam.

"In fact, the Americans in general are the most gentlle, polished & cultured people in the World.
"
You must not have been to Northern europe then. The greater part of Americans are good hearted, generous, freedom loving and fair-minded people. They are not Islamic. Doesn't that tell you something?


"........Being a Professional person, I do my duty, maintain my personal Standard, Honesty, Integrity & Ethics and also the Profession.
"
That's good - and so do most of us. But being proud of your profession is not a requirement for being ethical. A bricklayer can be an honest and ethical person.

".........Live in your own World, don't interfere or maddle in other Religions or their way of life.
"

And you live in your own world - and don't interfere with the free flow of information, opinions and ideas on ANY subject by others.

".....I am a Profesional person but also a strong Muslin by Faith.
"
Good for you

".....There is no Power on the Earth to change my Faith & my indepedent way of life & thoughts.".....
but you would like to clamp down on the independent way of life and stifle the thoughts of people who don't agree with you perhaps?
No religion is higher than truth. You will wake up in your own way.

".........I have the capacity to criticize myself. Even I don't hesitate to criticize my fellow Muslim Leaders, if I find wrong with their approach & conduct epecially in International arena. For criticizing my fellow Muslims, some readers think that I am a Jew or Christian. For their information I declare to them & the World that I am a Muslim by Birth & will remain so even by my Death."

Good - and I applaud you for that but you are one of the very, very few that do

".......I do love & practice my Holy Quran & the Traditions "
It would be better for you to awaken into greater awareness in the exciting discovery of Truth rather than simply practicing traditions - but there is no telling anyone that - unless they are sincerely seeking answers.

"....of my Prophet Muhammad the Most Important Personality in the entire World."
No, he is " not the Most Important Personality in the entire World" - that is simply something that you believe. This is one reason why you'll have difficulty in convincing other people that your beliefs are valid. And one reason for the 'criticism' here you find so hard to take,.

I'm not castigating your belief in a higher power ( we are all part of an awesome and infinite reality) but you have your ego wrapped up in a relationship with a person who you have never met, whom you
would not recognise in a crowd, was not a spiritual master and whose behaviour when he was alive, to make a huge understatement - was questionable.

Submitting....

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

Comment on this item

Mark my comment as a response to Magic Ring syndrome by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan

Email me if someone replies to my comment

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

See recent outstanding comments.

Follow Daniel Pipes

Facebook   Twitter   RSS   Join Mailing List
eXTReMe Tracker

All materials by Daniel Pipes on this site: © 1968-2020 Daniel Pipes. daniel.pipes@gmail.com and @DanielPipes

Support Daniel Pipes' work with a tax-deductible donation to the Middle East Forum.Daniel J. Pipes

(The MEF is a publicly supported, nonprofit organization under section 501(c)3 of the Internal Revenue Code.

Contributions are tax deductible to the full extent allowed by law. Tax-ID 23-774-9796, approved Apr. 27, 1998.

For more information, view our IRS letter of determination.)