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Mohammed, CPA: You need to take another look the Koranic perspective

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Submitted by Plato (India), Feb 25, 2009 at 20:16

Mohammed, you wrote:

>>Holy Quran must be understood from the Total Perspective of Holy Quran.

Messages of Holy Quran in concise are as follows:<<

Here are some thoughts on your post:

>>1.0 Accept God as your Lord & Allah. Obey His Commands. He is One & Alone. He has No Partnes. He is All Powerful & Mighty.<<

Just because an illiterate desert Arab pops up and says he has received this message via a creature called an angel that some one called Allah had told him to command people to obey Him and not associate anyone with Him, are you or I supposed to accept it meekly without any proof?

>>2.0 Help Poor, Needy, Orphans, disables & other unfortunate people. Love Humanity. Never do any Wrong or Injustice to others.<<

So what is new about this message? This has been the message of all religions from time immemorial. And what is also not new with Islam is that it allows Muslims to keep the unfortunate people they capture as slaves and concubines just as the people of the jahiliya did.

008.069 YUSUFALI: But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. [What is taken in war, including women and children are made LAWFUL AND GOOD by the All-Merciful Allah!]

008.041 YUSUFALI: And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer…….. [The orphans and the needy captured from non-Muslims become the slaves of Muslims]

>>3.0 Your Religion is for you, my Religion is for me. There is no Force or Interference in Religion.<<

Why then does Allah say: 061.009 YUSUFALI: It is He Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, that he may proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it). (Pikthal says 'conqueror' and Shakir says 'overcome' instead of 'proclaim')

009.029 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Muslims are asked to fight those who do not believe in Allah and His last Day. This is Allah clearly telling Muslims that they must impose their religion on non-Muslims.

>>4.0 Do not create Chaos & Disorder in the Society. Obey the Order of your Authority in your country. Live in Peace with others without interence or Fighting with others.<<

Muhammad created chaos and disorder in the Quresh society by abusing their idols and creating enmity within families. Muhammad refused to obey the authority of his tribal elders. As soon as he gathered an armed following in Medina he disturbed the peace and went on raiding expeditions against Quereishi caravans.

And Allah explicitly commands Muslims to fight with others in:

009.029 YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (Also read 9:111)

>>5.0 Be Honest. Do not cheat others or take away others Properties & Wealths.<<

This is a joke. Muhammad went about looting the caravans of the Querish (i.e. cheating them of what was rightfully theirs) and raided neighbouring tribes and took away their property and wealth.

048.019 YUSUFALI: And many gains will they acquire (besides): and Allah is Exalted in Power, Full of Wisdom.
048.020 Allah has promised you many gains that ye shall acquire, and He has given you these beforehand; and He has restrained the hands of men from you; that it may be a Sign for the Believers, and that He may guide you to a Straight Path;

008.001 YUSUFALI: They ask thee concerning (things taken as) spoils of war. Say: "(such) spoils are at the disposal of Allah and the Messenger: So fear Allah, and keep straight the relations between yourselves: Obey Allah and His Messenger, if ye do believe."

>>6.0 Do your Duty to your Family, your God- Allah, your Neighbors & to youself. Work hadr to improve your Material & Spiritual life.<<

Allah Himself asks you to reject your family if they remain unbelievers.

009.023 YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong.

And the prophet showed the way how to improve your material well-being by looting other people's wealth. As to spiritual life, Muslims are expected to pray five times a day and these prayers can include verses like:

033.037 Behold! Thou didst say to one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favour: "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah." But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest: thou didst fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah. Then when Zaid had dissolved (his marriage) with her, with the necessary (formality), We joined her in marriage to thee: in order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the Believers in (the matter of) marriage with the wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them. And Allah's command must be fulfilled.

066.005 YUSUFALI: It may be, if he divorced you (all), that Allah will give him in exchange consorts better than you,- who submit (their wills), who believe, who are devout, who turn to Allah in repentance, who worship (in humility), who travel (for Faith) and fast,- previously married or virgins.

What spirituality do you find in these verses??

>>7.0 Learn more. Never think you have learnt Every thing. Knowledge is vast, unlimited, bigger than Biggest Ocean.<< >>Think & reflect on your thoughts about the Mystery & Purpose of His Creations. many , many things for the people of Knowledge & Wisdom.<<

005.101 YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.

005.102 Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.

Muslims are asked not to ask questions about the Koran which is supposed to be the greatest source of knowledge. How can you gain knowledge without asking questions? Is the Koran exempt from questioning?

>>Think & reflect on your thoughts about the Mystery & Purpose of His Creations. many , many things for the people of Knowledge & Wisdom.<<

What if I thought and reflected about the Koranic revelations and came to the conclusion that it is all poppycock?

>>Saudi Prince must learn the lesson from our Great Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Saudi Grand Mufti & Palistinian Radical Muslims do not understand the very Message of Holy Quran. These Radical Muslims, Mufti & Mullah misinterpret the very Verses of Holy Quran and misuse them in the World. Terrorists & Suicide Bombers do not have any Knowledge of Islam & Holy Quran.<<

You great prophet Muhammad himself terrorized people:

Bukhari:V4B52N220 "Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been made victorious with terror. The treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.'"

The Koran also says Allah will cast terror into the hearts of unbelievers. 8:12

>>The so-called Jihadists have brought Bad name & Images of our Great Religion- Islam. Terrorists & Suicide Bobmers are committing very Serious Crimes against Islam, Allah & Holy Quran.<<

Why does this "great" religion incite its followers to fight people who do not believe in it, for this read 009.111

Why does this "great" religion tell its followers that life on earth is worthless, being just play and amusement, and they should strive to attain the hereafter?

006.032 YUSUFALI: What is the life of this world but play and amusement? But best is the home in the hereafter, for those who are righteous. Will ye not then understand?

014.003 Those who love the life of this world more than the Hereafter, who hinder (men) from the Path of Allah and seek therein something crooked: they are astray by a long distance

>>They are committing Double Crimes because these Ignorant persons are misusing the name of Islam & Holy Quran.<<

Islam itself tells its followers to commit mayhem in 9:111 for which they are rewarded with the pleasures of heaven. Those who are blowing themselves up are not ignorant Muslims.They are just trying to be good Muslims for the Koran tells them in 9:29 to fight the unbelievers until they submit. And they are told to use all means to subdue the unbelievers: 009.088 YUSUFALI: But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper.

>>Our Islam, Holy Quran & Allah are for Justice & equal Love for all Humanity.<<

Islam, Allah and the Holy Koran does not believe in justice and love for all. These great things are reserved only for Muslims. The Koran curses and abuses the unbelievers in many verses. Here are a few samples.

002.161 YUSUFALI: Those who reject Faith, and die rejecting,- on them is Allah's curse, and the curse of angels, and of all mankind;

009.030 YUSUFALI: The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

009.028 YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.

>>Allah will never question Muslims for other people's Obligation. Every Muslim is responible for his Own work. He, only he will be responsible for his Action, not for others.<<

Who in His right mind will burden one person with another's sins? This is no great credit to Allah. Not even earthly dictators would do that, so why should this heavenly one?

>>If any Muslim, Christian, Jew, Hindu or other people do not follow any Religion, it is not the responsibility for otheir indiference. So Muslims, be ready to present your good amal to your God- Allah. Do your Ya Hafsi. You do not need to worry for others.<<

If Muslims do not have to worry about others why are they asked to do dawa? Why did Allah ask Muhammad to preach His religion to the disbelieving Arabs?

>>Allah will never help those Nations whether Muslims or Non-Muslims, if they continue to commit Crimes against Humanity in the name of Islam or Holy Quran. All these lame excuses will be thrown upon the Face of the Violators by Allah.<<

Allah is the One asking Muslims to go out and fight for Islam and no lame excuses are accepted to stay back:

009.038 YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter.

009.120 YUSUFALI: It was not fitting for the people of Medina and the Bedouin Arabs of the neighbourhood, to refuse to follow Allah's Messenger, nor to prefer their own lives to his: because nothing could they suffer or do, but was reckoned to their credit as a deed of righteousness,- ……;- [SACRIFICE YOURSELF FOR THE PROPHET]

>>Allah or Holy Quran never teaches Muslims to be Unjust, Criminals, Terrorists or Suicide Bombers.<<

Read the two verses above. And also read this: 006.125 YUSUFALI: Those whom Allah (in His plan) willeth to guide,- He openeth their breast to Islam; those whom He willeth to leave straying,- He maketh their breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies: thus doth Allah (heap) the penalty on those who refuse to believe.

Allah decides whom to guide and misguide and then punishes those He misguides. Where is the justice in this?

>>Read Holy Quran with your Eyes & Hearts and try to understand the very Messages of Holy Quran.<<

Read the verses 9:38, 9:111, and 14:03 I have quoted above with your eyes and heart and understand the message of the Koran.

>>Unless you are a Scholar, Scientist, Physicist, Economist Or other Professionals, you will never learn the True Message of Holy Quran. Holy Quran is not for any Ordinary Muslims or Non-Muslims, Mullah & Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia.<<

How does being a physicist, economist or CPA qualify one to understand the Koran better than a Mullah or Mufti who spend their lifetime learning Islam?

The Koran certainly is not for non-Muslims but you have left "ordinary" Muslims out in the cold with regard to understanding the religion they think they are following. This is sheer blasphemy on your part. Allah Himself chose an illiterate Arab to spread Islam. Many of Muhammad's early followers were also illiterate and uneducated. There were no physicists, ecnonomists, scientists, or CPAs among the Muhammad's followers. How did they understand the Islam preached by an uneducated, destitute Arab living off his rich wife?

>>Without having broader Knowledge of History, Geography, Politics, Economics, all Relgions, Pure Sciences & other relevant subjects, only Grand Mufti or Mullah or Priests will not be able to give the True Explanations of any Holy Book including Holy Quran.<<

You have ruled out practically all of humanity from understanding Islam. This is a sad commentary on Islam. You have reduced it to a religion understandable to an elite group of people who you can count on your fingers.

This is also blasphemy as the Koran says it is a clear book easy to understand:

054.040 YUSUFALI: And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?

Also read: 44:58 , 54:22 , 54:32, 54:40, all of which say the Koran is easy to understand.

Are you prepared to receive Allah's admonition??

Regards

Plato

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