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Still living in the USA, Nura?

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Submitted by Straight_Talk_Luigi (United States), Feb 6, 2009 at 19:48

The first time I have heard this statement. So, I guess "Moslems" came from Mars. Muslims are the inheritors of the lands of their ancestors. For example, Arabs converted to Islam and thus Arabia is Muslim land. Indonesians converted to Islam and thus Indonesia is Muslim land, I'm sure you get the point.

Way to pull the extreme example card. There are also Christians and people of other faiths living in those countries who own property. The land does not nor ever will be exclusively Muslim.

Theft and Robbery? Surely you couldn't be European making such claims. Without going into the history of theft and robbery, I will ask, what nation on EARTH has not been at one point of time or another colonized and brutalized by Europeans, Christian and "Jew"? Now compare that figure to "Moslems".

Yes, of course, blame the Jews and the Anglo-Saxon Christians. China was never colonized, and actually, global power has shifted many times of the history of civilization. You're just cherry-picking to play the victim is all. Just remember how Islam spread: through wars and battles started by Mohammed and his followers.


Criminality is in what form? Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, Chechnya, Bosnia, Kashmir, Somalia, Nigeria in present times. Or perhaps when the entire Muslim world what being occupied by Spain, France, Britain, Italy, and Zionist during world war 1 and 2.

Israel did not exist during WWI and WWII and don't blame the Europeans. They just beat everyone else at their own game. The same thing was happening all over the world, the Anglo-Saxons and other Europeans were just better at it. Maybe you should blame your ancestors for not putting up a good enough fight.

There is a common denominator in all of these situations. INVASION AND OCCUPATION!!!!

Yes, we all know what happened to the Christians in North Africa, Egypt, Syria and the Jewish tribes in Arabia when Islam came about. War and persecution. Guess we're all guilty at some point, huh, Nura?

How outrageous for a people to resist invasion and occupation! If we counted the Muslim casualties in all of these incursions they would be astronomical.

Does that include or exclude Muslim-on-Muslim fights?

Of course your going to have a few family members pissed after watching there wives, sisters, children, mother's and father's get blown up, raped, humiliated, tortured, turned out, over the decades. There are over 5 million orphans in Iraq! Do you expect them to forget?


This is not an "Islam against the West" ideology, but when you consider that the West is currently involved in the War in Iraq and Afghanistan, and supports the occupation in Palestine, then it becomes a reality.

Is this what you hear in the mosque on Fridays? Most of the West opposed the Iraq War and is offering very little help in Afghanistan.

Until very recently, European public opinion has often been on the side of Palestine. But even they cannot stomach much of Hamas.

This is a not a hate for the people of Western nations. This is a reality that the armies of Australia, Britain including Nato, which is a compilation of soldiers around the globe, are actively engaged in the crusade on "terror." This in not the perception of an enemy, but a reality. The resistance in Afghanistan is fighting against the world.

The resistance in Afghanistan fought and defeated the Taliban with American and British help. You are referring to the terrorists and their false doctrine of Islam, the same one that you follow, Nura.


This would make an interesting b.ook of fiction because that is exactly what it is. Let me ask, where in the history of the Islamic control of Jerusalem when this annihilation of the Jews took place? Let's first acknowledge that the land was taken from Muslims once before during the Crusades, when ironically, Christian crusaders where murders and pillagers of Muslims, Eastern Christians and Jews

Yeah, you guys and gals were so innocent. You never once threatened the Catholics, and when the Vatican started to fight back, you got squeamish. The Crusades, perhaps, went too far.

Jews ran to Muslim lands like so many other times in history for safety, how quick they have forgotten. When Muslims retook Jerusalem after 100 years of European rule, what did they do? The West should have taken lessons. There was actually peace in the land, until of course, the crusaders tried again and again to take it back unsuccessfully until the 1900s. Every since then it has only been Hell in the land. History as well as the present proves that there is only peace in the land when Muslims have it and it is the only way peace will return.

Oh sure, they'll be peace, only as long as the Jews live as second-class citizens, right?

If only it were that simple.

In your case it is. You just called bin-laden the resistance. Didn't you know that?

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