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Raid of Kahyber, Response to Mohammed

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Submitted by Choudhury (United States), Aug 3, 2005 at 18:40

Mr. Mohammed: Sahih Bukhari, which is next to quran in acceptance among muslims, talks of Khaybar war from hadith No.508 to 551 (Book 59). Raid of of Khaybar it describes, is very different from what you described.

Volume 5, Book 59, Number 510:
Narrated Anas:

"We reached Khaibar early in the morning and the inhabitants of Khaibar came out carrying their spades, and when they saw the Prophet they said, "Muhammad! By Allah! Muhammad and his army!" The Prophet said, "Allahu-Akbar! Khaibar is destroyed".

It clearly shows Mohammed attacked Khayber unanounced. None of the hadiths talk of 1600 muslim jihadis were facing 10,000 jewish soldiers. All they talk about is poor jewish farmers came out to to go to their farms with their spades and Mohammed's jihadis attacked .

Another hadith says:

Volume 5, Book 59, Number 512:

"The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer near Khaibar when it was still dark and then said, "Allahu-Akbar! Khaibar is destroyed Then the inhabitants of Khaibar came out running on the roads. The Prophet had their warriors killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives. Safiya was amongst the captives, She first came in the share of Dahya Alkali but later on she belonged to the Prophet" .
So they killed unarmed , unprepared farmers, and raped their women . ( Allah allows sex with captured women 4.3, 4.24, 23.6, 33.50.70.30).
Ishaq goes into more details and talk about Mohammed'd torturing of Kinana to get the treasury and sleeping with 17 year old Safia after snatching him from Dihya who had grabbed her first..
What books do you read Mr. Mohammed. Can you give more details of your sources? I suggest you read sahih hadiths, and original siras instead. But they are repetitive and boring. You better, save time and read Prophet of Doom by Craig Winn, he summarized quran, sahih hadiths, and original siras in very intersting reading. It is available on internet (prophetofdoom.net).
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