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Refugees - more lies about the makeup

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Submitted by Maggie (Australia), Jul 29, 2005 at 16:53

Mohammed,

As an economist (I am a Bachelor of Economics and Commerce) I know a saying that goes like this: "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics". Well, what you have claimed fits perfectly into that saying. For you have provided lies about the situation in Chechnya, damned lies about other parts of the world and then quoted statistics. The reality of the world situation, especially that in Chechyna is very different from the situation that you have painted.

If the Chechynans have been removed from their land, it is because the Russians will not tolerate their particular brand of thuggery. Will I start with the numbers who were murdered in the theatre, or the fact that the lives of school children were so devalued that they planted explosives timed to go off when the children were at assembly? That kind of behaviour cannot be excused, and it will never be excused. These thugs will have to face a higher authority than the human authorities, and according to the Scripture: "The wicked will perish". If Islamofacists do not respect the lives of their neighbour then they will find out that in no uncertain terms they will not be worshipping the One True God in Heaven. They will join Mohammed in the place that looked like a golf course but that was just the demo.

The Palestinians had the opportunity to be resettled elsewhere, but they refused to go peacefully. Groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah are alone responsible for the violence that has erupted in that region. If they were not behaving so badly then there would be no need to treat them as though they should remain in refugee camps. Every single person in the refugee camps in that region does not have to be there. They could have, by now migrated elsewhere, to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, or one of the other Moslem countries.

You gloss over the fact that in Muslim countries the Christians are persecuted. They are not allowed to even have a Bible. In some instances, if they are found to have any literature they face being tortured in prison. That is the real situation.

In China, as far as I am aware only a tiny minority are Muslim. However, even there it seems that Muslims are not prepared to be appeased or to leave quietly. The major religion is China is Buddhist, not even Christian. The Christians face persecution and many are forced to go underground. If they are caught they face being thrown into prison, and being tortured. However, that is not the fault of the Buddhists, but the rule of the Communists who control the government of China.

Russia belongs to the Russian Orthodox and the Catholics. Yet it is the communists who hold sway. If the Muslims in Russia are not happy then they should leave and head to Mecca where they will be free to practice as Muslims. They have no right to cause disturbance, unrest, thuggery and murder their neighbours in the name of Islam. They are but a minority group in the whole of Russia. If they want rights then they should blend into the community and accept the government of the day. This is what the Christians and the few remaining Jews have done in the Russian society.

However, your comments prove only one thing to me and that is Muslim apologists do not know how to see/tell the truth.

BTW, here in Australia we have refugees. The majority of them are not Muslim, for they are displaced Christians. However, a minority, especially from Afghanistan are Muslim. They do not want to live under totalitarian rule and that is why they have fled from their countries. When they arrive here by illegal means they end up in camps. By now they should have learned that Australia is not going to give them a free rein in this country. Some of the alleged refugees have been deported because they were not refugees.

Also, the majority of migrants who have moved from Europe to the New World (USA and Australia) are to some degree refugees. After world war two we had a huge influx of Italians in particular, and even in the 1800s we had people fleeing from the militarization of their country. My great grandfather fled Germany for that reason. These refugees managed to make a new home for themselves and they never portrayed themselves as victims.

That is one of the major problems with your arguments. The Islamists are not the victims for they are the perpetrators of the violence in all parts of the world. They have not been oppressed. They are the oppressors of others. They cause th wars. They refuse to feed the people. They use money on military equipment instead of feeding their starving people. That is the truth of Islamofacism.
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