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Original hadits and Sira regarding Safyia

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Submitted by Esmeralda (Slovakia), Dec 5, 2007 at 03:19

Sorry, Sabrina, but you are omitting some reliable hadits and Sira passages in the Safyia case.

1. Ibn Ishaq reports in Sirat Rasul Allah, "Abu ayyub, Khalid b. Zayd, brother of B. al-Najjar, passed the night girt with his sword, guarding the apostle and going round the tent until in the morning the apostle saw him there and asked him what he meant by this action. He replied, ‘I was afraid for you with this woman for you have killed her father, her husband, and her people, and till recently she was in unbelief, so I was afraid for you on her account'" (Sira, 766).

"The next day a Walima (wedding-feast) was arranged on behalf of the Prophet…

The reason Safiyah rejected the sexual advances of the 57-year-old Muhammad should be obvious to any objective person. I believe most women prefer to mourn than jump into bed with the killer of their father, husband and many relatives on the same day of their death. But the fact that the prophet of Allah could not contain his sexual urges for one day to let this young girl grieve, says a lot of his thinking and moral character....

a strange manner of courting and building relationship isnt it?
First I rape her and after I will marry her? strange behaviour, but in case of Mohamed, no wonder.

2.Sahi Buchari Hadiths (#149, page-704): Ahmed Ibne Saleh…Annas Ibne Malek narrated, "….when we told Apostle of Allah about the paragon beauty of Safiya Bint Huyay (who was newly wed and the husband was killed in the battle), then Allah's Apostle sanctioned her for himself…"

so and the prophet was only doing charity by marrying beautiful widow - that she will be never widowed without his compassionate battle.. for sure...

as a mahr, he manumitted her:) - clever old fox, he spared money.. in case she divorced him, she became against the slave of the prophet and she was halal to him for having sex... great great great....

And that you are calling a blessing for the mankind?

The Prophet (peace be on him) said in a report by Imams Ahmad and Al-Nissaie: With regard to the Dhimmis (Non-Muslims living under Muslim protection), Islam ordered that they must be treated justly.

hoooo, joke of the week by sabrina...

Dhimmis are never equal to moslems.. in no way:)

1. they cannot inherit from a moslem...

2. their testimony on court is not held against the Moslem - see blood price for a dhimmi man, what is a half of blood price for moslem man - if they are equal, why this difference?

3. they cannot adopt children ... really a paragon of social justice...

4. they (dhimmis) were viewed as a source of living by lazy moslems.... against i can testify it by hadits...

5. special tax, paid by dhimmis as the punition for not converting to islam

6. they cannot bear weapons : why? in order that they cannot defend themselves aganist moslem bandits?

7. they have to wear special colours and hairstyles in order to be recognised as dhimmis - that is the famous tolerance of islam:))) something like yellow David Star introduced by nazis.. :)

Mischief....

Mischief/Terrorism is an outrageous attack carried out either by individuals, groups or states against the human being (his religion, life, intellect, property and honour). It includes all forms of intimidation, harm, threatening, killing without just cause and everything connected with any form of armed robbery, hence making pathways insecure, banditry, every act of violence or threatening intended to fulfil a criminal scheme individually or collectively, so as to terrify and horrify people by hurting them or by exposing their lives, liberty, security or conditions to danger; it can also take the form of inflicting damage on the environment or on a public or a private utility or exposing a national or natural resource to danger.

- exactly...what are moslems doing today in the whole world...and accusing the others of doing this:)))

but this definition is not from the quran nor from hadits...so, that is what you are invented lately, please a quranic definition..or from hadiths.. fiqh can say that today and tomorrow it can be the oppposite, so we will stay as for the mischief definition in the frame of quran and hadits...

Ok?

Awaiting your response

Esmeralda

Submitting....

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