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Submitted by Sabrina (United Kingdom), Dec 8, 2007 at 19:43

Your really begining to bore me now...What DEFINTION are you talking about. LOOK i do know what defintion means you know, i dont think you quite do.. I have given you simple texts from the Quran defining mischeif, i mean... are you for real? or just having a laugh. You simply cant get over the safiya case because, i dont know you must be 180 years old or something i mean you act as though you were there at the time, One things for sure...you gorra be jew!!

Whatever happened back in the days of the prophet only Allah knows better. What i wrote about safiyas story i actually got from authentic hadiths and did not make up the dream bit either.Im truly waisting my time with people like you who havent got anything better to do than just get all the bits that suit them to degrade islam and the prophet p.b.u.h, you wont beleive anything because you are so up these faithfreedom crap. Lets get one thing straight, the quran is the last testament and the word of God. The boys having pubic hair and than allowed to be beheaded is news to me it all sounds propogated unless there were reasons for this.

... Basically a person was put on this earth for a test, this is like exams and a test, than a qualification. Thats how it works, God is testing us, he has given us a mind of our own, and we are responsible for our own actions. Why dwell on past things whether they were right or wrong, God is the best judge of all. If everyone thought like you there would be a war going on in the world, and why is islam the fastest growing relegion in the world, why isnt it christianity, or jewdaism, Now i really do understand these verses of the almighty...

Allah may or may not guide. He also leads astray. He forgives or refuses to forgive as he pleases.

"If thy Lord had so willed, He could have made mankind one people; but they will not cease to dispute. Except those on whom He hath bestowed His Mercy. And for this did He create them: and the Word of thy Lord shall be fulfilled: 'I will fill Hell with jinns and men together'."

Surah 32:13

"Allah sendeth whom He will astray, and guideth whom He will. He is the Mighty, the Wise."

Surah 14:4 - translation by Marmaduke Pickthall

"He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth."

Surah 5:18

Whom Allah misleads cannot be guided by anyone.

"Seek ye to guide him whom Allah hath sent astray? He whom Allah sendeth astray, for him thou (O Muhammad) canst not find a road."

Surah 4:88 - translation by Marmaduke Pickthall

"As to those who rejected faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe. Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur)."

Surah 2:6+7

Allah could have made all mankind one people (ummah). He leads astray - but the misled must bear the consequences.

"Had Allah willed He could have made you (all) one nation, but He sendeth whom He will astray and guideth whom He will, and ye will indeed be asked of what ye used to do."

Surah 16:93 - translation by Marmaduke Pickthall

Allah decrees error - though he could have guided all rightly.

"For We assuredly sent amongst every People an apostle (with the command), 'Serve Allah and eschew Evil'. Of the people were some whom Allah guided, and some on whom error became inevitably (established). So travel through the earth and see what was the end of those who denied (the truth).

Surah 16:36

Why should it be necessary? Because of their disobedience? The context gives the explanation:

"Allah guideth not such as He leads astray, and there is none to help them."

Surah 16:37

"Say: 'With Allah is the argument that reaches home: if it had been his will, he could indeed have guided you all."

Surah 6:149

"Whom Allah doth guide - he is one the right path; whom He rejects from His guidance - such are the persons who perish.

Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell; they have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle - nay more misguided."

Surah 7:178+179

Another translation says:

"He whom Allah leadeth, he indeed is led aright, while he whom Allah sendeth astray - they indeed are losers.

Already have We urged unto hell many of the Jinns and humankind, having hearts wherewith they understand not, and having eyes wherewith they see not, and having ears wherewith they hear not. These are as the cattle - nay, but they are worse! These are the neglectful."

Surah 7:178+179 - translation by Marmaduke Pickthall

Al-Baqawi says:

"Not only can he do anything, he actually is the only one who does anything. When a man writes, it is Allah who has created in his mind the will to write. Allah at the same time gives the power to write, then brings about the motion of the hand and the pen and the appearance upon paper. All other things are passive, Allah alone is active".

The prophet p.b.u.h is even mentioned in the bible heres the evidence or definitions in your case...

Jesus Gives Glad Tidings of Prophet Muhammad

7. Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

8. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

9. Of sin, because they believe not in me.

10. Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;

11. Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

12. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

13. How be it when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

14. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

(John 16:7-14)

These verses are saying the same thing again that the prophet who will come shall not speak for him self. Jesus also said that he would come after me.

Not only Jesus talked about Prophet Mohamed peace be upon him and his family, but all the other prophets told their nations too. With the passage of time and in the presence of devine people, the majority of people forgot the main message. But you can still find some signs of this message in today's bible too.

John the Baptist was asked if he was Elijah and if he was "that prophet" (a prophet like Elijah). He answered "No," to both questions: Are you Elijah? And he said, I am not. Are you that prophet? And he answered, No (John 1:21).

I will send you Eli Jah [LORD God], the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD (Mal 5:4).

It is clear that Jews were not only waiting for Jesus but also a man called Elijah and a prophet who was like him. Both of them were important for them and they had heard about them from old Prophets of God.

In Christianity Jesus is not a Prophet and no on is like him too. So it must be someone after Jesus. Because these two personalities were most important for God messengers. And both were like each other but one was prophet and the other wasn't a prophet. We do not know name of prophet in the verse but name of his witness is Elijah. Elijah is actually name of Ali who is leader of Muslims after last prophet (peace be up on him and family). And this Elijah and Prophet should come before the last day. It means the prophet should be the last prophet, and he will come with the final testament the (Quran).

But not only signs of Prophet Mohammed are in the Bible but his name is too.

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