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Our dear Taj and the doctrine of taqiyya

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Sep 7, 2008 at 07:43

Our dear Taj who pretends to know Arabic and who is no more than a victim of Arabian imperialism wrote

>Taqiya is not a part of jihad.

Oh is this the strive to improve (sic) thing? Well jihad means holy war our dear Taj

>It's simple definition is to lie about being a Muslim in order to save one's life.

Not really. Taqiyya as you shall below means: "muslims may under certain circumstances openly deceive infidels by feigning friendship or goodwill even apostasy provided that their hearts remain true to islam" (see al-Qaeda reader)

Example: Muslims can participate in interfaith dialogues but this will be nothing but taqiyya and no they do not have to hide the fact that they are Muslims they can even pretend to be friends with Jews and Christians (see the aya below which is the foundation of the doctrine of al-taqiyya) . This is a form of taqiyya. Another form of Taqiyya is where Shi3a Muslims being persecuted by Sunnis can pretend not to be Shi3a and indeed this obscure doctrine was developed and expanded by Shi3a Muslims and not by Sunnis

So your claim is bogus

> The concept comes from the fact that early Muslims were subject to persecution, death, and horrendous torture based on their conversion to Islam.

Really? Where? And it is a doctrine and not a concept and we know that this doctrine was first realized and practiced by Shi3a Muslims who feared for their lives from the likes of Ibn Taymiyya and Sunni Muslims

You must pardon me but ...the real question is why do you provide such funny answer to an issue that you seem to be clueless about?

>Some Muslims would lie when confronted with inquisition

Inquisition? What inquisition?Or you mean inquisition by other Muslims? You must pardon me but you are a demagogue and nothing more

>and wondered if they were doing the right thing. In response, a quranic address was given, which acquitted anyone who lied in order to save their life of any spiritual wrongdoing.

Oh could you tell us where we can find such "Quranic address" our dear Taj? You do not know. I see well let me help you

Your Arabian Allah says: la yattakhidha al-mu'miinuuna al-kafiriina aawliyaa' min duuni al-mu'miniin wa man yaf3al dhalika falysa min allahi fi shayyin ila an tattaquu minhum tuqaatan (i3rab) wa yuhadhirukum allah nafsuhu

And no I do not translate arabic ...so your claim is bogus

>That's it, end of story -

The story will end when islam is defeated and your likes revert to the religions of their ancestors that were brutalized by islam

>the rest is distortion and fear-mongering.

Rest of what?Your ignorance? I see

>I find it interesting that people who aren't even Muslim claim to assert what Muslims think or believe, and give either the flimsiest "evidence" (a statement by a few and unqualified individuals) or none at all.

No we infidles tell you what your primary sources tell you in Arabic a language that you cannot read or write but that does not stop you from pretending to know Arabic

>Obama being a secret Muslim bent on world domination is as probable as him being a Martian secretly helping to colonize the planet.

Islamic gobbledygook

I urge you to abandon islam and reject the Arabs and their imperialism and be whole again

For the readers interested in reading about this obscure doctrine of al-taqiyya you can read the great work by Raymond Ibrahim "al-Qaeda reader" and see pages: 64-65, 72-74, 100 and I guess our dear Taj is too busy reading the Qur'an to read some real scholarly work

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