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Where is the relevance?
Reader comment on item: "Death to America"
in response to reader comment: Is Islam truly a peaceful nation?

Submitted by Klaus Illian (United States), Jan 19, 2008 at 13:57

I find it somewhat humorous that someone would consider taking events that happened more than a thousand years ago and extrapolate that into an argument about the actions of a group of people today. Even the very question superscribing the author's comments, "Is Islam truly a peaceful nation?", needs to be carefully examined.

Is there a nation of Islam any more than there being a nation of Christianity? Religious belief in general is but one reason for discord among peoples. Economic interests and lust for power are others. But to argue that warfare and savagery in the 8th century means modern Muslims are predisposed to violence leads to the same conclusion about Christians: the sack and butchery of Constantinople during the 4th Crusade must mean all modern Christians are violent people.


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