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Tens of millions of moderate Muslims discovered in Turkey ... among " traditional rural Turks" !

Reader comment on item: A Million Moderate Muslims on the March
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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), May 30, 2007 at 07:01

Batur Gurbuzer wrote :

> I won't deny that we still have much way to go, to achieve Kemal's goal to be among most modern societies, but as an agricultural country which suffered for so many years in the shadow of cold war and in a region so volatile and underdeveloped, our first priority sometimes becomes defense rather than education.

"Sometimes" ? Throughout 1000 years of recorded history since the occupation of Asia Minor by the Turks , the Turks have done nothing else except waging holy wars , enslaving, plundering and living a parasite's existence at the expense of their neighbours , spreading the scourge of Islam across Asia and Europe and blaming the victims for all the problems that have resulted from the barbarity brought by them. And now you kindly admit that it is still after 1000 years - the same song of sabre-rattling that the modern janissaries ( =the Turkish militarists) are singing . How kind of you !

As to modernism and its Turkish father Gazi Mustafa Kemal Pasha , what paragon of modernism this mass murderer can be? He built his modernist dictatorship using the most backward and primitive Eastern Anatolian peasantry . He made Turkey a Moslem monoculture . He continued the ruthlessly genocide commnced by his young Turkish predecessors and where they failed he was a success ! He imposed his own mad personality cult across Turkey with his most absurd and ignorant historical theories (so e.g. the Turks are taught to be proud of their Sumerian-Hittite "origins" ) that strangles and criminalizes any critical thinking . Nay , for putting Gazi Mustafa Kemal's picture in a wrong place , one can be prosecuted and punished ! Any open remark discordant with the insipid official dogma will be immediately followed by charges of "denigration of Turkishness" with many years in prison . How modern ! How ultra-modern and edifying !

> Still, fundamentalist ıslamists are a small portion of our population, which one should not confuse with traditional islamic beliefs of rural turks.

Thanks for identifying the new superclass of moderate Moslems - "traditional (...) rural Turks" !!!! Dr. Pipes will be happy to learn that with those millions and millions of Turkish peasants his theories and dreams at last have been brilliantly borne out !

Now we have the sword to untie the Gordian knot too . To solve the problems of fundamentalism in the West , the only thing to do is just overflood few Moslem extremists living in the West with those millions of truly moderate Turkish peasants and felicity and concord and peace will be re-established across the West .

> However from the posts I have read I can see that there are those who won't even consider peaceful coexistence with muslims (or any foreign culture maybe) moderate or not.

If you have read the posts , you visibly haven't understood much. The authors of most ( or rather all) critical posts on this forum universally agree that it is the Muslims that cannot coexist with any non-Moslem culture and world-view and not vice versa as you insinuate. There are deep structural reasons for that . To learn them , please re-read some of the posts .

> I hope this does not reflect the mainstream point of view of the western world.

You don't have to hope. The corrupt and venal mainstream media are paid for not reflecting public opinion but the opinions and guidelines of their pay-masters. So you can fully rely on the distorted picture presented by the mainstream mediocrities if you wish to see your beloved official Turkish lies servilely reiterated and glorified.


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