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Oriental filth old and new

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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Oct 8, 2011 at 08:00

Tim Lock from Saudistan wrote :

>The Europeans are well advised to continue to wipe their filth with whatever means they like, and in thats after II world War, but dont imagine cleanliness was born after the war and after tissue paper.<

If I can believe the Turkish Ministry of Health which seems a more reliable source than you , in Turkey cleanliness is yet to be born. And don't mix "Islamic ritualistic purity" with "cleanliness". You can be ritualistically "pure" without using a gram of toilet paper and being affected by numerous excretion-related diseases.

Anyway, I am so grateful you have not contradicted or even mentioned the exact data of the Turkish Ministry of Health. I say it because I was afraid I would have to change my low opinion on your rationality. What I mean by "irrationality" referring to you is that you're particularly insistent and eloquent about things which can't be in principle verified while those which are verifiable you prefer not to take the slightest notice of. It's so typical for every Moslem obscurantist , isn't it ?

So again, more than half a million Turks infected with filth-related diseases within a decade and 10 times less toilet paper used than by their more civilized neighbours but who cares? Tim Lock neither knows that nor is able or willing to take it into account. Well, we mustn't expect too much from Tim Lock , our Turkish lie machine.

I also greatly enjoyed your Oguz and Turkmen nomads and herdsmen roaming with their cattle herds and sleeping in smoke-filled tents on the steppes of Central Asia and Anatolia and their no less legendary "cleanliness" reinforced by your compelling "knowledge" of European history. I have no doubts in my mind that you take it from the "omniscient" Quran, don't you?

But I have one question to you. What has happened to Turkey and Turks then? Now there is apparently so much filth and squalor in it everywhere. Turks don't wash hands, don't use toilet paper as the Turkish Ministry of Health points out and still they are all Moslems (99,8%)?How do we have to account for that?

Let's see where we get by following your superior "logic". You say "the Turks had to wash every day, and thats because of their religion, if you know what I mean".

Irrespective of what you mean and know the fact is that today the Turks who are 99,8% Moslem don't wash even their hands every day and that's why they are infected with excretion-related diseases on a mass scale as the said report confirms. So according to what you say they are either 1/ no longer Turks or 2/they are no longer Moslems...or 3/ you are what the Mirriam-Webster Dictionary defines as "a person lacking in judgement or prudence".

And last not least. Am I wrong in assuming that you are an average Turk ? As as an average Turk your consumption of toilet paper is typical for the average Turk, isn't it ?

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