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Nonsense cannot be argued with

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Submitted by Tim Lock (Saudi Arabia), Sep 29, 2011 at 18:01

Who gave the right to the Israelis the right to inspect the ship. How many guns were found, or how much illegal material was found on the ship? I dont think you get the facts right. It was not menat for inspection on the part of Israilis, but halting and diverting the ship. So what you say is nonsense. If you are talking about and you are, self defense, It is the perfect right of those legal passengers on a ship, passengers of other nationalities and ship of another country, to defend themselves against the armed assoult in international waters if you know what I mean, Internatiobal waters. And with what they defended themselves, fire extingushers, etc. and how many Israili soldiers have been killed or seriously wounded? None. How many deadly weapons have been used by the passengers? None.

You are again talking complete nonsense and contradicting and disproving your bias, by blaming passengers for expressing the wish to be martyr. Pardon me, if they said so, it is a passive expression, ie daring to face brutal and unlawful Israili attack, not active, ie killing and attacking a country or its people.

If you had some idea of proportion and criminal law, even, you would realize that even if this happned right in the middle of Israili territory, it would have been a crime on the part of Israili armed and uniformed man, since you cannot as a police or army kill someone who is countering or resisting you with a non deadly force. Further many of the passengers (like young Furkan of Turkish-American double nationality was kiled in close range and on his back neck. Close range means it was delibarete shot to kill, (which should have could have been avoided) behind the back means, he was running or not facing the attacker.

Its hard to argue with a nonsense and even harder to explain to someone who does not get the basics right.

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