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The Aristotelian KISS and our dear Terrence

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), May 24, 2009 at 15:14

Now our dear Terrence rabina yu3alimuhu inahu jahil kabeer fi al-falsafa (oh darn it Arabic! Oh well may be you can ask your Mullah or one of your Arab masters to tell you what it means) so you see I have established that Asistotle's logic's was far beyond the Qur'an, the authors of the Qur'an allah, Muhammad and gabriel and it is all in the sira

So I'm going to be blunt

1. You come here and you tell us that this blog is in English only right?

2. My answer was: not true as long as we are discussing Islam

3. And here is why: you cannot be a Muslim unless you can read the Qur'an and understand what it says in Arabic (remember the KISS?). Right?

4. Based on Aristotle's logic that you have to keep things simple Oh the Aristotelian KISS? you are right!

5. Do you know what this means? It means that you can only be Muslim if you really know Arabic first so you can read the books of islam be it al-Qur'an or kutub al-turath al-islami or the primary sources on islam in their original language arabic that is.

6. And then and only then you can read the Qur'an and understand what it really says after all how can you be sure that translations are correct? And why is this too much for Muslims to understand? Well my answer is if your Allah and his rasul and Gabriel had no clue about Aristotelian logic then why should you?

And you know what? if you can believe that an Arabian warlord and caravan raider ...spoke to a deity called Allah via an angel called gabriel then you flunk basic logic

7. Even your masters the Arabs realized early on that islam is really the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only as per Qur'an 14:4 and until the end of the Umayyads in 750CE most of the civilized Middle East was non Muslim. But again many wanted to share the arabs in the looting and not pay al-jizya wa al-kharaj taxes and the only way was to convert to islam right? Well the Arabs invented the so called concept of al-wali wa al-mawali (oh darn it Arabic again! Oh well you knw by now that you have to ask your Mullah) where a potential convery had to do the following:

A. Convert to the race of the Arabs first and how was this achieved? It was acheived by becoming a mawla of a wali who is an Arab or in plain English (are you happy now?) become the client of an Arab and join his Arab tribe

B. Then he, the mawla that is, can covert to islam

And this very well explain the linguistic as well as religious shift that took place

India? India was different as there were few Arabs and lots of kuffar and this is why we do not see the same wali mawali concept in India

8. Oh the topos? well you see our dear Terrence it sounds that all of you tablighees repeat the same nonsense and the topos here "English" (oh there are other topoi as in "the context"!) and if you do not know Arabic then yell and shout and say you make mistakes in English and for this you can check the blogs of our dear Angela Class and our dear keith. The other funny topos and it is what I call "read Qur'an" (for reasons I do not undestand tablighees have no clue about the rule of al al-ta3reef in the Arabic language and this should be read THE Qur'an) you told me to check URLs, remember?, in response to me telling you that the Qur'an says that Jesus is God and Islam is the religion of the Arabs! You see the way we write says a lot about who we really are But you know what? All it takes is a class in Literary criticism 101 and one can very much expose your likes. So do us and do yourself a favor get a grip on reality ...

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