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Submitted by jkman (United States), Nov 28, 2008 at 23:02

Again Terrence, take the complete scripture if you MUST quote the Bible. Don't take bits and pieces and distort what it says. Just makes you look stupid when your caught doing it.

Yet again you quoted JUST vs. 27 of chapter 19 in the book of Luke. Where if you took the whole story, and read and UNDERSTOOD the whole story, you would see that, yes, Jesus was speaking, but he was telling a parable.

The Parable of the Ten Minas

11While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once. 12He said: "A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king and then to return. 13So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas.[a]'Put this money to work,' he said, 'until I come back.'

14"But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, 'We don't want this man to be our king.'

15"He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it.

16"The first one came and said, 'Sir, your mina has earned ten more.'

17" 'Well done, my good servant!' his master replied. 'Because you have been trustworthy in a very small matter, take charge of ten cities.'

18"The second came and said, 'Sir, your mina has earned five more.'

19"His master answered, 'You take charge of five cities.'

20"Then another servant came and said, 'Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth. 21I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.'

22"His master replied, 'I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow? 23Why then didn't you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?'

24"Then he said to those standing by, 'Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.'

25" 'Sir,' they said, 'he already has ten!'

26"He replied, 'I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away. 27But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me."

As you can see, Jesus was speaking, but he was telling the parable of the Minas. The "man of noble blood", is the actuall person who spoke those words, not Jesus. Jesus was just repeating those words to tell a story (so to speak).

I also think you downgraded Jesus. He is not merely God's prophet. He is his son.

You said; "Christians have distorted the teachings of the prophets to suit their own agendas. How many versions of the Bible are out there? But the books God had sent were the Torah, the Zaboor, the Ingeel, and last of all the Qura'an. Christians distorted the Ingeel and made the Bible out of it and made Issa the son of God."

How have Christians distorted the teachings of the bible? Give me an example.

By "versions of the bible", I'm assuming you mean something along the lines of the KJ, and the NIV. That kind of "version" The "versions" are there as langauge adapts. How many "versions" of the Quran are out there? One for every language I assume. The KJ version is an older versiona and no one talks that way anymore. Hence forth they came up w/ a newer version more along the linguistic styles of today's age. It's like giving us a Bible worded in Hebrew and expecting us to understand it. That's why there are different "versions" or translations.

You said the Torah, the Zaboor, the Ingeel, and last of all the Qura'an were books that God sent. Where is your proof? What gives you that impression? It's awful easy to say stuff, but quite another to back it up w/ proof.

Last time I heard, the Bible came from God himself through his Prophets and Desciples as the authors of particular books. Mathew, Mark, Luke, John, Timothy. ect, ect. (you get the picture) were the authors of the bible and wrote what was given them by God, not taken from your books of trash.

Here is some food for thought Terrence.

Galatians 1:6-8 -- There is only ONE true gospel. To teach otherwise is to be accursed.

Revelation 22:18-19 -- Do not add to or take away from that which God has written.

Isa 30:9 -- That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD.

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
(kinda sounds like the Islamic/Muslim mantra on this web site...bragging about how you are the fastest growing religion on earth)

2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
(do we get the picture yet?)

At either rate, the bible never contridicts itself. The Qura'an on the other hand is full of contridiction. Especially opposed to that which you all say. You all claim to be peacfull, yet the Qura'an supports "killing of the infidels". I would be supprised if you read everything I wrote here, but you may suprise me yet.

Good night to you Terrence.

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