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"Secular Islam" and "grass-eating carnivores"

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in response to reader comment: turkey is a secular country for 85 years

Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Jun 21, 2008 at 14:00

Zisan Sumer wrote :

>As I read your article I have notice that you lack the knowledge that Turkey is a secular country.<

If anybody lacks anything, it's you who lack the basic statistics on your country. Turkey is a Moslem monoculture - 99,8% (!!!) Islamic! It's the achievement of its alleged "super-secularizer" Gazi Mustafa Kemal Pasha who methodically exterminated anything un-Turksih (=un-ISlamic) in his new paradise built on genocides , deceptions and denials .

>Separation of church and state is in place for 85 years.<

There has been no separation whatsoever. There is a total control of more than 77 000 mosques by the state ... just like in the old Ottoman days with diyanet playing the collective role of the sheikh-ul-Islam. Even Friday sermon are written by the Moslem Faith Directory - diyanet. Sepration means the other part is free and there is no freedom in Turkey. So don't mislead us or Turkey's alleged freedom!

>Here is the irony. Now there is talk of islamization of Turkey. Because certain think tanks believe that other islamic nations do not imitate Turkish way of secular regime is simply : Are you ready for t is? Because Turkey is not islamic enough. Therefore other islam countries see Turkey as betraying the islamic ideals for going secular.<

Turkey's is a sham secularism. All of them are Moslems while making us believe they're not because here and there they'll tell some Muslimas to take off the hijab and naive Westerners will spread the "big" news.

>In other words. You are either muslim or secular. This is the argument. Here is my view. It is done and achieved in Turkey so many decades. Why ruin this only bastion of secular islam in order to control other islamic countries.>

An interesting collocation "secular Islam", sounds like a "grass-eating carnivore", doesn't it? Semantics is not our generation can be particularly proud of. Yet if "secularism" has any meaning at all, it is the opposite to everything Islam stands for. So the argument you're futilely trying to invalidate does remain valid. You can't be 99,8% Islamic and boast of your alleged secularism.

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