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Question to every moderate Moslem - "How many gods does Allah allow to live next to himself?"

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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Jun 17, 2008 at 10:07

Nowhereman wrote : >You prove my point of ridicule and insults for what is basically me mentioning my observations of the hate spewing not just from yourself but on lost of websites and blogs, and all you get in reply is SHUT UP WORDS like "racists, Anti-semite, Jew Hater" etc...<

My impression is that it is Moslems that prefer "racist" and "Islamophobe" and given the brilliant expoits of the "prophet" (no peace be upon him!) in exterminating Arab Jews the term "anti-Semite" is as natural to describe a Moslem as "carnivorous" to describe a wolf. Or didn't Mohammed have the Jews expelled and decapitated? Wrong context again? "He just terrorized them in self-defence. They had persecuted him. He had them all killed" ...

I know the fairy tales you'd like to mislead me with, Moslem!

>Now before you go rabid on me again, may I point out I am none of the above I have friends who are Jews,<

Interesting! Have you informed your "friends" on how your Noble Quran(=Allah) sees them? "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people." Sura 5:51

>Sheiks, Hindu's, Christians, Athiests and Agnostics. I went to school with most of these people and have always got along well with them and there families. So please don't infer i'm a racist.<

- "You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide." Sura 5:80 I do infer you're just a Moslem hypocrite or a real ignoramus!

>The point I was trying to make is that I was brought up to respect everyone and the Islam you describe is not what was taught to me.<

Do you want to say you used to go truant during your madrassa lessons?

>I concur that nowadays Wahabbi doctrine is the norm but 40 years ago I had never heard of this.<

I don't concur on that issue. The Quran is quite clear of what makes a good Moslem and if you have any residual doubts please consult the deeds of the "prophet" to dispel your uncertainty.

>But this is funded by the Saudi Royal Family who's oil money is the funding for this sick doctrine that is invading all our mosques.<

It is not wahhabism which is sick. It is Islam that is a sick, paranoidal and parasitic doctrine. There is no healthy Islam as there is no healthy pathology. And Islam is a deeply pathological condition.

>This is not about religion but about power<

Has Islam ever been not about power? It is a supremacist , power-centred doctrine through and through, man! So please don't start misleading us on that crucial point too.

>and all the mosques in England and I suspect the rest of the west are running by Wahabbi devotees.<

The essence wouldn't be much changed if they were being run by non-wahhabists. Who has eyes , let him read the Quran to see the point! >The clerics are quoting the Quran out of context

< ...WOW! You do know the context!!! We don't! That's a big news! Another expert on "right" context or wrong translations, on errors of interpretation and all other things to save the intrinsic virtue of the Islamic vice! So what context did we poor extermists both on the wahhabi and kaffiri side miss in 5.50 and 5.81? Enlighten us on that point, "moderate" Moslem! >to convey the extremist messages that they want to convey to stir up bad feelings.<

They want to sir up bad feelings while you're are chasing good feelings. You can do that ...at the expense of truth which you don't seem to care much about. So typically Islamic, isn't it ? Being a Moslem and loving the truth are mutually exclusive terms.

>For example matyrdom and suicide bombers. I was taught the biggest sin in Islam is to kill unless it is in self defence or if percecuted. It is not permissable to take a life in any other circumstances.<

The critical word in your poor logic is "unless"...You'll always find things to put after "unless" and unless you disagree I'll tell you that suicide bombers see what they do as "self-defence" and reaction to "persecutions" by evil kafirs under particular conditions. Never watched any confession of a suicide bomber on the net? The rubber called Islam will fit in to stop any stinking hole. >I was also taught not to just take the word of another with regards to knowledge religious or otherwise but to find out for oneself.

< Ha!Ha! ...What a nonsense in the mouth of a Moslem! The Moslem has no choice and unless he willingly complies with having no real choices, he's eliminated by the ummah. Or how many gods does Allah allow to live next to himself ? How many Qurans did he write? ...There is some very defective logic around here, man. Guess whose logic it is - mine or yours?

>As for the history lesson yes it is a bloody history but please don't forget your own bloody history.<

Haha! It's what I expected. The moment the conversation centres on never ending heinous Moslem crimes, Pavlov's reflex sets in in every Moslem : "don't forget your own bloody history!" We have whole libraries here in Kafiristan devoted to our bloody and inglorious past and few people in their senses would deny the obvious facts! We owe it to our most precious achievement -the Enlightenment! Now name to me the titles of the books you have in your library or know of across dar-al-Islam devoted to crimes committed by Muhammed (no peace be upon him!) , the first rightly-misguided caliphs and their successors , the criminal nature of Islam as the breeding ground of genocide and religious oppression ?

Unless you can't find any titles, don't even mention what you have copied from "Answering Christianity" or any other third-rate Moslem pseudo-intellectual website for historically totally ignorant and forgetful ummah!

>Come on play the white man the muslems are bloody amateurs, in 1400 years they have barely scratched the surface of the Wests death toll.<

It would be interesting to know your statistics on Islamic crimes! What numbers are given by "Answering Christianity" and other 'authoritative' Moslem sources you prefer to rely upon?

Nowhereman wrote : >Hello Ianus, love the name,<

Wow! Soon I'll learn that "as a Moslem" you like Etruscan mythology too, won't you?

> FYI actually I do It hadn't escaped me that your name Ianus or sometimes known as Janus but what I was thinking when I wrote that sentence was the sometimes reference to Janitor. You'll find my name in "January" as well if you're interested in philological questions. By the way, do you know when and how long the temple of Ianus remained open in ancient Rome? The temple of Ianus will never close as long as Islam isn't eradicated from this world for good.

>please don't slate me as a racist, nohing could be further from the truth.<

You're a hypocrite, to get closer to you.

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