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Babarian Turk (c) demands more anwers.

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Submitted by sims01 (United States), May 28, 2008 at 17:26

>Who else beside the Hellenes was ready to force the perfidious and genocidal Turks ( they had exterminated 1,5 mln Armenians since 1915 and then slowly but systematically 1 mln Greeks and blamed the victims for Turkish own crimes - as always good Moslems do) to respect the 1918 Mudros cease-fire agreement and later the 1920 Sevres peace terms?

Firstly, regarding Armenians, the number is not actually 1.5 million but probably less than 1 million, still that is a horror of unimaginable proportions. I disagree that it was genocide in the legal sense though. Ottoman government at the time was trying to save itself from defeat at the hands of the Russians and tried to relocate the Armenians who sided with Russians.

Granted, we are mostly responsible for what happened but an "intent to exterminate" was not there. At best they didn't and couldn't do enough to stop the killing of Armenians in the hands of local population and rogue troops (which as you probably know, were not Turkish). On the other hand Armenians slaughtered the Turks on the other side of the frontier and in places like Van. No one ever talks about that. As a final data point after we lost Balkans the refugees that were being driven away suffered equally as Armenians did, again not mention of that anywhere.

To this day, there are Armenians living in Turkey AND Armenians from Armenia coming to Turkey for work (illegally). You won't find any Turks or Azeris living in Armenia though, they were kicked out. Who is more tolerant again ?

As for the Greeks, show me a credible source that claims that a million Greeks were killed. If it was so why didn't Greece raise the issue at League of Nations. Why did they sign a friendship treaty only 10 years after we supposedly killed a million of their compatriots?

Our supposedly "jihadist" country fought together with two Christian empires in WWI. What is more Muslim Indians fought against us in Mesopotamia. Weird huh? It was not a war along religious lines , don't even try to paint it that way.

Mudros ceasefire allowed the entente to control strategic locations ONLY when their security were threatened, not when they pleased, not to partition mainland Anatolia or not to satisfy Greek nationalism. They were certainly not threatened when they invaded western, southern and southwestern Anatolia, and all of Thrace. It was plain partitioning. Sevres likewise was never ratified by the Ottoman parliament, in fact it was rejected AND the parliament demanded the land, which is now Turkey to be the Turkish state. What did the "civilized powers" do? They shut down the parliament. You expect us to adhere to Sevres?

The "never ending Turkish Jihad" brought us Lausanne, a peace that has been holding for over 80 years.

I see that you chose not to answer my questions, which were not expedient for you, but I need to repeat them.

- you are going to gang up on us with Russia (last time I checked Russians were doing a whole lot of business with us and were pretty happy, but let's ignore that for a second). Then what? Start a war? Take the land back? Will you be able to live with us? Drive us away? Cause, umhh.. you know, that would be against the geneva conventions and UN charter. And we would be still be the "barbarian Turks" after that? Do you even believe what you are writing?

- And lastly, doesn't it bother you to have so much hatred for a whole group of people? You never met me but can call me a "barbarian" without a second though. I am curious to how you'd actually interact with a Turk in real life if you were to meet one? Start fighting? Turn back and walk away while wallowing in your hubris?

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