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More bogus claims by no other than Hassan aka pierre

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in response to reader comment: "dhimmi no more" I can take no longer your nonsense and being illogical

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Apr 24, 2007 at 07:44

You wrote

> my name is Pierre Carpe Arceno

So what is that Hassan? Oh I forgot it is the wannabe Arab in you. Shame on you

Oh, I forgot to tell you and my real name is Mother Teresa. As if I believe you but your fantasy goes on and on you had no clue who really was Huein ibn Ishaq, but because you are a real fahlawi now you are saying but Hunain is only a translator that is it. You know this is another manifestation of your poor education

Hunein ibn Ishaq was a genius, we take translations now for granted. Now imagine a man whose first language is Syriac trying to translate books from Greek to Syriac (the Greek had a stable grammar at the time and Syriac speakers were still writing more works in Syriac grammar) . The Arabic language?

In the 9th century the Arabic language was still a very defective language and Muslim Mesopotamians and Persians (and non of the masorites was a Hijazi Arab not a single one) were working on the Muslim masora (do you konw what is the Muslim masora? I doubt it very much) trying to read the confused book of Allah, but the most important work on the Arabic language was the work of Hunein as he most likely is the inventor of the short vowels (fatha, damma, kasra) and when he was translating the Greek works from Greek to Syriac and then to Arabic he had to _invent_ Arabic words ( yes invent words) that did not exist in Arabic of the time (based on Sibawayhe's F3L) the likes of tuhal, safra, balgham and you will find these words in even Lisan al-3Arab a dictionary that you cannot read because they are now perfect Arabic words.

All these words would have had no meaning to Muhammad or even his Allah, but Hunein was able to change the Arabic language and make it a world language. I consider as the most important work in the so called Muslim/Arab civilization. Hunein was working with no Arabic language qawamees (dictionaries). His work is pure genius because he left his imprint in the Arabic language for ever and ever. I consider this as more significant than a book of science or medicine that would be of only historical value. Now do you get it? But again your comment about Huenin is just another manifestation of your poor education. And if you can believe that Muhammad the caravan raider and Arabian warlord is the rasul of the God of the universe you can believe anything.

Now I challenge you to provide us with names of real Hijazi Arabs that contributed to science and medicine. Like i said, it was Muslim Mesopotamians (and no, Iraq did not exist in the 9th century) and cultured Persians as well as Christians and Jews that conributed to the so called Islamic/Arabic civilzation the likes of Maimonides (he was Jewish) , al-Batriq (he was a Jacobite/Monophysite) , the Christian al-Kindi (he was a Nestorian) etc... It is not only books of science and medicine that makes a civilization a real one, but it is books of falsafa are the most important. But Arabs had no like for Greek falsafa with few exceptions as in the case of Ibn Sina who was not an Arab but a cultured Persian.

What is more damaging to your case is that 3Ali Dashti claimed that 70% or al-3Ulaum al-Islamiya (the hadith, sira, the masora, asbab al-nuzul, tarikh etc...) were written by Persians and not by Arabs. So much for the Arabs and their civilization

So what were the arabs doing in the meantime? They were doing what this always did best and that is: Looting. culture and education? were the last thing on their minds.

Yes, there are many wannabe Arabs like you, including Pakistanis and converts to islam, but still this does not change the fact that the Qur'an really says that Mushmmad was sent to his people the Hijazi Arabs and therefore Islam is the religion of the Arabs. So who is the rasul of your people ya yauha al-fahlawi al-kabeer becuase he ain't Muhammad! And yes the Qur'an really says that Jesus is a prophet but also a God. So much for the confused book of Allah.

Shame on you for debating an issue that you have no clue about..

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