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Our dear Hassan aka Pierre and his diatribes against Catholics and the transmission of the Greek Learning

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in response to reader comment: "dhimi no more" is very poor in the art of argumentation

Submitted by dihmmi no more (United States), Apr 21, 2007 at 15:49

Our dear Hassan al-tablighee realizes that he has no clue about reading history, and more so the history of the Middle East in the late antique period and early Islam. He tells us that the Arabs translated such work which is bogus. He did not realize that it was Christians in the Middle East that translated the Greek learning and he is not aware that Greek drama and myth and Homer's work was not translated to Arabic (and you guessed it such work was translated by Christians in the Middle East!) until ealy 20century as the Arabs had no like for such _pagan_ work.

Then he had the audacity to tell us but non of those that translated the works were Catholics, but he did not realize that there were hardly any Catholics in the Middle East at the time.

Then when he is told that it was jews in Spain and not Muslims that translated the Greek learing to Catalan and then _Catholics_ translated it to Latin, I did not hear a word from him.

Then when I told him that the copy of Hunein's translation of Ptolemy's "Tetrabiblos" is not in an Arabic speaking country but it is at the Laurentian Library in Florence. I did not hear a single word from him.

Then he tells us but how about all those Arabs (sic) that contributed to the Islamic (sic) civilization and he meant to talk about those Arabs and their works? Well almost all of them were cultured Iranians and Mesopotamians, and for sure not Hijazi Arabs. Well, he keeps listing the names again and again with out any critical examination of his own material. And then babbles about Europe being in the dark ages. When he is told this might be true, and I can also argue that without the Greek civilization there would have been no Islamic civilization, I did not hear a word from him.

Now what he does not understand is that Europeans were interested in getting the primary source of such work and in the case of let us say "Tetrabiblos" they wanted a real copy of Tetrabiblos and not just "preserved" quotes from the such great work.

Then he jumps and asks how about the contribution of Christians and Jews in the Middle East? He is very unaware of the rule of Alexandria in learing and the likes of the great Plotinus, Arias, Philo of Alexandria, al-Batriq, al-Maymoon or Maimonides, the Christian al-Kindi, the great Sadiya Goan, and for sure Hunein ibn Ishaq, who really changed the Arabic language and made it a language of learing and these are just a few names.

Then te tells us someting about the Protestants! I call this poor fahlawa and do i think that he used to be catholic? No he is another Pakistani that pretends to be something that he is not.

Now like I say: our dear hassan, you are here to defend Islam and Arabian imperialsim that brutalized your ancesots and for this I say: Shame.

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