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Nazia's lack of concrete knowledge about true Islam led her to view hadiths as all true!

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Submitted by Hassan Pierre (Philippines), Apr 20, 2007 at 21:37

I'm sure that you are a kind of individual who is not yet fully well-versed of Islam and the bogus and childish arguments to those who attacked Islam! It is just a matter of wrong premises and reference point to start our analysis about Islam!

Fisrt of all, as Muslim, history and hadith cannot be given as priority documents than the Holy Qur'an but Holy Qur;an first then the secondary references which are hadith and history. You must be aware also that the Holy Qur'an is free from error and the hadiths and history though there are true/genuine reports are also full of errors, half truth and just simply fabrication!

You must be aware also that Holy Qur;an is not a narrative history, biography or narrative story but a kind of prose of highest calibre! No wonder some will argue that the Holy Qur'an is not consistent in its contents! Though that is not an accurate comments since as a prose or long narrative poem. it is not simply a long narrative history well arrange chronologically! Simply the Holy Qur;an as a prose is not written in chronological manner the way ordinary prose used to be written in out literature!!!

You must be aware of the fact that, unlike during the past centuries, almost all Muslims now are already properly educated and very well aware that the hadiths and history are not altogether true and genuine reports about prohet Muhammad . We are not simply like the way taliban and al-qeada will view them! We true muslims never denied the existence of Hadith compilation and reports from history.

what we deny are only those reports which are in disagrrement of the principles of the Holy Qur'an! Muslims knew very well that the Hadiths and History reports are just a collection of traditions by fallible people, which some of them have vested interest during at least more or less 300 years after the death of Prophet Muhammad. Common sense dictates that all its reports should be received with critical minds and must be evalutated as per the words of Allah in the Holy Qur'an.

The reason perhaps that you reject islam is because you have no critical mind and foolishly regarded all the hadiths and report in history as all true where in fact hadiths and history is not a revelation from God to Muhammad, but just theworks of later muslims! You should rather use the Holy Qur'an the only revelation of Prophet Muhammad as standard in knowing the true and false hadiths! It is just a matter of common sense!

Using false hadiths and FABRicated reports in history to attack Islam is the style of non scholars and christian critics of Islam! Simply many professors and scholars of Islamic History and middle eastern studies in the USA and europe will not agree with you!

While there are many true; authentic hadiths and genuine reports in history, many also are just false or simply fabricated in order to justify the wrong/evil deeds of later tyrant caliphs! So it 's just a matter of what kind of hadiths you should pick. Whether you choose those contradicted in the Holy Qur'an and regard them as genuine hadiths, or choose those in agreement with the Holy Qur'an as genuine and reject those contradictory as simply false and fabricated at best!!

The alleged hadith that Prophet Muhammad ordered those who apostasized to be killed is reminiscient of the early debates of who will succeed the Prophet among muslims after the death of Prophet Muhammad. Many Muslims refused to honor Abu Bakr and want to regard Ali as real calip since he was personally appointed successor by Muhammad.

Yet abu bakr and his supporters regarded those who refused his rule/refuse to pay tax as threat to their power, hence they are all killed and massacred.! To justify this, the later supporters of the caliphate invented the so-called hadiths about "death for the apostates" and those who refuse to pay the tax had been retrospectively branded as apostates. that is why they were killed by abu bkar! By that they have then the idea that it is the teaching of Islam to kill those who apostasized, which is not the case, since it is contradictory to the very teaching of islam which is "there is no compulsion in religion truth stands out clear from error!"

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