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Submitted by Joe (United States), Feb 6, 2006 at 18:44

Ed...first off you did not answer any of my questions or criticisms with any proof. When I said one thing, you just said it was wrong. Perhaps there is no right or wrong answer, but you at least have to proove your point. When I saw Muhummad is sinful, you have to prove he is not, perhaps with stories of how he is not sinful. I saw to you, answer my questions! Show me proof!

The book I speak of is:
Women and Gender in Islam : Historical Roots of a Modern Debate by Leila Ahmed

This I don't think you can just google, and it is written by a Muslim.

First off, the Bible has been the #1 book of all time, and has been around about 622 years longer than the Qur'an. People live by this book 2000 years later too. As for porn Bible, Im not sure that there is any. I think you made that up, unless you mistakenly have interpretted something, in which case I would love it if you could send me the passage.

Also, I would like to know exactly how and why our book is corrupt. You Muslims talk a lot about that, but I don't see anything corrupt in it. Why is it corrupt? Is a flat pacifism corrupt? What about monogamy? I guess those are both corrupt.

Ultimately, Muhummad's revelations can only be proved by faith, not by science, because the supernatural world is just that, supra natural, beyond natural rules. However, the logic in his teachings is undoubtably human and fallible. Logic is how philosophers (Muslim and non-Muslim) discover their world and the next.

Please answer my question: Why did Muhummad have 10 wives and 4 concubines when the Qur'an permits only 4? Why did he cheat on his 10 wives (not enough obviously)? Why does the Qur'an state bull like:

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YUSUFALI: Had Allah wished to take to Himself a son, He could have chosen whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is Allah, the One, the Irresistible.

It is interesting that the original translation of this page said "Had Allah wished to take to Himself a son, who would be his mate?" The contradiction is apparent, an omnipotent God could make anything possible. It is thus changed to the above. I love how the Qur'an will say some small little thing, and before anyone questions it, it starts up again about how Allah is awesome and always right. Half the damned book is a praise to Allah.

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PICKTHAL: The Jews and Christians say: We are sons of Allah and His loved ones. Say: Why then doth He chastise you for your sins? Nay, ye are but mortals of His creating. He forgiveth whom He will, and chastiseth whom He will. Allah's is the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them, and unto Him is the journeying.

Here again the Muslims are hypocrites. We say we are the loved ones yes, but isnt all of Allah's creations loved? Are the Muslims loved? The Qur'an turns this into the Muslims against the Christians, where the Muslims are obviously better. The Christians did not say we are not chastised, we are not sinners, or we are not mortals! Then it goes into how Allah is all and all that.

Also, I never said that the only peoples were Jews and Christians. I didnt need your obvious fact check, but maybe you did to make yourself feel smart.

Your Allah is NOT our God. It is a twisted mirror image. A Meccan Zeus. Are you familiar with C.S. Lewis? There was Aslan and their was his twisted image. You are living in Plato's cave you Muslims.

So you were watching NBC, what about any other channel? Muslims are all over it raping and pillaging and bombing. A few black sheep versus the entire black horde. Your right, the morals taught by Christians are wrong (sarcasm).
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