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Submitted by Ed Nur (United States), Jan 28, 2006 at 21:20

Its really not the sentences u can come up with by playing word association, but the deeper meaning behind it. It's silly to say if that then this.

Anyway, its common knowledge and doesn't need Painstaking research to know that sexual promiscuity is something that barely exists in the ME. 30% of the kids born in the United States in the early 90's were illegitimate, and that number has went dramatically. Just google it, doesn't need to hear that from an imam. You know just the fact of marrying a woman who has slept with double digit number of men really disgust me, but you know, in the United States that does mean a thing. Oh yea, first commandment, though shall not kill? I guess that is why abortion is legal in the Middle East. You dig

Second, its nothing new for the French or any other Western power to say a race or certain type of people are inferior because of what they believe in or how they look. Remember that the red Indians were savages.

Third, its not a unique privilege, Muslims are always inviting others to the light. If you're a Christian or a jew, you know through out history there were certain people, based most of the time in the middle east saying we have the truth from god, and later on in the bible and torah, or the quran, god says they were the truthful ones, so I guess I have to disagree with Ernest Renan on that point.

Little research I did on Renan revealed the following info. "The first volume of the History of Israel appeared in 1887; the third, in 1891; the last two posthumously. As a history of facts and theories, the book has many faults; as an essay on the evolution of the religious idea, it is (despite some passages of frivolity, irony, or incoherence) of extraordinary importance; as a reflection of the mind of Ernest Renan, it is the most lifelike of images. In a volume of collected essays, Feuilles détachées, published also in 1891, we find the same mental attitude, an affirmation of the necessity of piety independent of dogma".

Another point I disagree with Ernest Renan is the fact he said Muslims have silly pride. A true Muslim can't have pride. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: "No one will enter Paradise who has an atom's-weight of pride in his heart." A man said, "What if a man likes his clothes to look good and his shoes to look good?" He said, "Allah is beautiful and loves beauty. Pride means denying the truth and looking down on people."

If I am a slave to Allah, and his teachings and ways are shackling my mind, best shackles ever. Do you really think you can change the way I think by quoting some guy who wrote a book, and said something, about a religion, which he probably saw as the enemy at the time. He only studied the bible and the torah, if he was a real scholar he would have studied all, including the Quran. I guess he really didn't do his research because he would have read the hadith above and would have known pride has no place in Islam

Sorry I jest sometimes, but truly and honestly my main mission when I come to these forums is to stop hate, sociology teaches us when a certain group of people from the same background get together they can be dangerous. Lol like a mob, so I come in here to delude the concentration and bring in fresh perspective on things, I hope you can appreciate that
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