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The 'moderate Muslim ' is a poliitcal artifact
Reader comment on item: [The Hamas electoral victory:] Democracy's bitter fruit

Submitted by Paul Christopher (Australia), Feb 1, 2006 at 06:55

. ' Elections are bringing to power the deadly enemies of the West'. writes Dr Pipes. True. Yet the US State Department are promoting the clandestine based Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and in Indonesia where it has inspired the PKS on the faulty assessment that the MB is "moderate' and should be allowed parlimantary representation. They are promoting the Islamist policy of "islamisation by stealth'. Dr Pipes in incorrect in arguing that its not Islam or some cultural factor that accounts for this difference between democraitc states and Islamic election viotories? What then is it? Why are Muslims drawn to the Islamist program ? And where are the mythical moderate Muslims?

The mythical 'moderate Muslims' are a State Department artifact. They had to be invented. The few who do exist can be declared apostates and killed. Dr Pipes also believes the Hamas led Palestine authority will 'see the error of their ways ' There is only one way to ensure this objective. The Hamas leadership must be neutralised especially If they link to a nuclear armed Iran.

Israel is in a perilous position. I do not observe the term' moderate Muslim' in any Israeli publication. The threat of extermination concentrates the mind wonderfully.

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