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Submitted by Esmeralda (Slovakia), Nov 20, 2007 at 03:58


your information is scarce and at least uncomplete...

1. Women preaching in mosque - no, surely no:) when men are also present - otherwise it will be mixing with other sex, men can have impure thoughts that can annulate their prayers ... even Adhan (call to prayer) cannot be performed by woman...


How Can a Woman Be Permitted to Become a Preacher?" - March 28, 2005, Al-Majd TV

Al Fawzan: "Even if the imam makes a mistake during prayers, the Prophet banned women from saying 'subhan allah' ['God forbid'] like the men say in such a case… Women must clap their hands [instead]. Why? Because the voice of women is tender by nature, and arouses [urges], and it is improper for men to engage in thoughts about women during prayer…

"Thus, how can a woman be permitted to become a preacher? Undoubtedly, this is unacceptable, and must be condemned…

"I know of no clerics who permit men to be led in prayer by a woman, not even in the five [required daily] prayers - and all the more so in a sermon… The controversy amongst the clerics concerns women leading women in prayer… [and whether] this is lawful or merely permissible… [Even in this case,] the clerics have determined that a female imam must stand amongst the women, not in front of them, so as not to be like the men [where the imam stands in front of them]. This being the case, how is it conceivable that she deliver a sermon? This is a strange thing… that emanates from lack of faith, from religious weakness, and from laxity in religious knowledge, and also from behaving in accordance with the will of the enemies of the [Muslim] nation - the Jews and the Christians…"

2. Killing a peson just because they are not muslim is a sin according to Islam - it is not true, because your own "Prophet" Mohamed did it..

"Narrated Ibn Aun:
I wrote a letter to Nafi and Nafi wrote in reply to my letter that the Prophet had suddenly attacked Bani Mustaliq without warning while they were heedless and their cattle were being watered at the places of water. Their fighting men were killed and their women and children were taken as captives; the Prophet got Juwairiya on that day. Nafi said that Ibn 'Umar had told him the above narration and that Ibn 'Umar was in that army
." Volume 3, Book 46, Number 717:

This same Hadith is recorded in the Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4292, which validates the claim of its authenticity

poor victims were rich, and not moslems - a carte blanche for killing...

but, killing the dhimmi is not very good thing - why kill the hen laying golden eggs, of course and source of living for moslems ...

3 . The situation of women in islam - it is a slave condition... see famous Ghazali..

Ghazali defines the woman's role:

- She should stay at home and get on with her spinning

- She can go out only in emergencies.

- She must not be well-informed nor must she be communicative with her neighbors and only visit them when absolutely necessary.

- She should take care of her husband and respect him in his presence and his absence and seek to satisfy him in everything. [3.1] [6]

- She must not leave her house without his permission and if given his permission she must leave secretly.

- She should put on old clothes and take deserted streets and alleys, avoid markets, and make sure that a stranger does not hear her voice, her footsteps, smell her or recognize her.

- She must not speak to a friend of her husband even in need.

- Her sole worry should be her "al bud" (reproductive organs) her home as well as her prayers and her fast (starvation for Allah).

- If a friend of her husband calls when her husband is absent she must not open the door nor reply to him in order to safeguard her "al bud".

- She should accept what her husband gives her as sufficient sexual needs at any moment.

- She should be clean and ready to satisfy her husband's sexual needs at any moment.

The great theologian then warns all men to be careful of women for their "guile is immense and their mischief is noxious; they are immoral and mean spirited".

In his Book of Counsel for Kings, Ghazali sums up all that a woman has to endure because of Eve's misbehavior in the Garden of Eden:

"When Eve ate fruit which He had forbidden to her from the tree in Paradise, the Lord, be He praised, cursed women with eighteen punishments:


- childbirth;

- separation from mother and father and marriage to a stranger;

- pregnancy;

- not having control over her own person;

- a lesser share in inheritance; (one half of the male as per the Quran)

- her liability to be divorced and inability to divorce;

- its being lawful for men to have four wives, but for a woman to have only one husband;

- the fact that she must stay secluded in the house;

- the fact that she must keep her head covered inside the house;

- the fact that two women's testimony has to be set against the testimony of one man;

- the fact that she must not go out of the house unless accompanied by a near relative;

- the fact that men take part in Friday and feast day prayers and funerals while women do not;

- disqualification for ruler ship and judgeship;

- the fact that merit has one thousand components, only one of which is attributable to women, while 999 are attributable to men;

- the fact that if women are profligate they will be given twice as much torment as the rest of the community at the Resurrection Day;

- the fact that if their husbands die they must observe a waiting period of four months and ten days before remarrying;

The idea that a woman's sole purpose and "... duty is to stay at home to satisfy the sexual appetite of her husband" is again summed up in Ghazali's Proof Of Islam. Ghazali is still so highly revered amongst the majority of Muslim clerics that that he is called "proof of Islam".

As the supreme cleric Ghazali defined marriage for generations of Muslims : "Marriage is a form of slavery. The woman is man's slave and her duty therefore is absolute obedience to the husband in all that he asks of her person. A woman, who at the moment of death enjoys the full approval of her husband, will find her place in Paradise." [R1]

The most influential thinker of Islam, Ghazali, molded the minds of billions of Muslims with his opinions on women's character : "If you relax the woman's leash a tiny bit, she will take you and bolt wildly.... Their deception is awesome and their wickedness is contagious; bad character and feeble mind are their predominant traits ..." [R2]

Ghazali also exhorted women : A wife should never refuse her bud (organs) to her husband even if it is on the saddle of a camel. And he equally urged those men who teach their women to write : "Do not add evil to unhappiness" learning his lessons from Mohammad and Omar who commanded : "Prevent women from learning to write. adopt positions opposite those of women. There is great virtue in such opposition."

Islam views women as awrah : The Encyclopedia of Islam defines awrah as pudendum, that is "the external genitals, especially of the female". [Latin pudendum (literally) a thing to be ashamed of] The followers of Imam Hanbal and Shafi'I (major factions) consider even the woman's hand and the face to be awrah (genitalia), and therefore should be covered. [3.3] [7]


Who was Ghazali ?

"He was the greatest theologian produced by Islam." Encyclopedia of Islam

"He is recognised as the most influential Muslim thinker of all time..."

"No 'alim can have his rank." - 'Abdallah bin 'Alawi al-Haddad

The belief that the wife is the slave of the man is also shared by other influential clerics such as Razi, and Ibn al-Araby (Ibn al-'Arabi, Ahkam al-Qur'an, part one, p. 63).


So, dear Fatima -islam is wrong, not people doing exactly what is islam - tough idea to swallow, but true (but moslems do not like truth :)

Have a nice day



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