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Submitted by Muhammad_Jesus_Moses_Adam (Kuwait), Apr 5, 2006 at 04:27

When I see hateful comments I cry myself why we have lost our morals and thoughts up to this level. There is enough resources for entire world populations for millions of years. Soon we will find a new planet which will be full of natural resources. Probably it will be discovered by USA. So don't worry for energy control and other issues.

I think Palestinian must hand over the Al Aqsa Mosque to Israel although it is first Mosque for Muslims because Allah ordered at the time of Prophet Muhammad that Pray towards Mecca not Al Aqsa because God knew that there will be conflict in future but we all (Muslims/Christians/Jews) foolish to understand.

The only solution for Israel/Palestinian problem is two states theory or keep on doing same killings for both side! G-d sent more than 124,000 prophets to teach (most of them in Israel area) but still we all of us are worst than animals. Neither Palestine nor Israeli need to understand and listen to anyone that's why some third parties are taking advantage for this conflict for last 55 years from both sides.

Most of the killings and on going politics is related to business interests not religion but some people links religion, politics and business all together and make different meanings and use according to their interests.

Before there were no boundaries and visa systems like today wherever people find food and irrigation lands they migrate like still you will see animals do in Africa, Antarctica and Siberia. Millions of animals and birds migrate and travel thousands miles from one place to other for proper shelter and food. But now we have people who believe in "Divide & Rule" formula like they did in India, Middle East and other places.

Many characteristic of Manu (Indian Hindu godfather) matches with Prophet Noah and also Prophet Moses with Lord Krishna. Many things of Hindu Vedas matches with Koran, Bible and Torah. I will give you an example. In Indian state BIHAR, many good religions (Sikhism, Jainism and Buddhism) started but they are still poorest and illiterate people in entire India. God new the problems and that's why he sent such people to go and teach.
Buddhism spread out everywhere in many far east countries like (Japan, China, Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia etc.) and made good people but Indian Bihar is still 200 years backward compare to any Japanese city. Same in Isreal and Palestanin. People who migrated to other places they eshblaished well but Israely/palestainians are same in 16th century!
Some time people misinterpret Koran and take partial lines or words.. like "Kill Kafir" as mentioned on several places at Daniel Pipes Web site. Kafir means person who does not pray & believe in God (It could be Christian, Muslims, Jews or Hindus etc.). When Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) started his teachings there were thousands of problems existed in Arab countries/societies like they used to kill their female babies at the time of birth, they used to kill people for money, they used to drink wine whole day and fight with each other, they did not respect elders, they fight all the time for woman, they preferred homosexual relations.. etc. etc. Prophet Muhammad tried to teach but they did not listen and whoever supported prophet Muhammad they killed them. At last when situation became worst then God ordered Prophet to give them last warning to stop all sins otherwise kill them. Now, tell me what is the punishment in USA for killers, robbers, terrorists, rapist and other criminals….. do you give them AWARDS with Millions of dollars with respect and put garlands or HANG THEM/ PUT BEHIND THE BAR? My dear if we want to keep clean society we have to take tough actions like we do with our kids for education. Most of the time children do not want to study and need watch movies or play…means we leave them alone and let them do whatever they want to destroy and create problems for other kids or people? No, we have to force them (some time beat them) for study or to follow good deeds.

"Muslims same race like Christians, Jews or others and the children of Adam/Eve. They are ethnically not a separate group. Different way of worship does not change their forefathers." Our skin,brain and body shape changes due to different climates and weathers when we separated from each others thousands years back!
Everyone has to die one day and see God. So please do not create problems for other religions and communities. God has promise to give food and other recourses until the last day on this earth. Please don't create hate for few millions dollars.

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This response [140 words]
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Total Agreement! [64 words]Albert E. Roth IIIApr 4, 2006 14:1542314
1Agreement [69 words]Donald F. PufahlApr 4, 2006 14:0842313
Yes, But Remember.......... [207 words]William J. SturmApr 5, 2006 03:0542313

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