Mansoor: If the partition of India is history, so is the partition of Palestine
Submitted by Mansoor (India), Jan 29, 2009 at 11:40
Mansoor, you wrote:
>>We both have our own bunch of information. You are happy with yours...and I am happy with mine.<<
Have you ever checked the source and the correctness of the information you have? My ‘bunch of information' mostly consists of the Koran, sahi hadith and the sira of the prophet
>>The reason is to be found that why we took the level of hatred to such a bloody point? Indians never accepted Pakistan's independence in 1947. The wounds are still bleeding when we see Indian attitude. You people don't waste an opportunity to penalize and stab Pakistan. <<
Why have Muslims, especially Pakistanis, never accepted the division of a far away land populated by an entirely different race speaking a different language i.e. Israel?
>>Just understand that partition is history now. I hope you were not born at that time.<<
Why don't you also understand that the partition of Palestine into Jewish and Arab territory is also history? Why are Muslims trying to undo it? No Indians, except some fringe groups talk about undoing partition. In fact considering the state of Pakistan and the bigotry that prevails there a large number of us think of partition as good riddance of bad rubbish.
>>Most of the aged and perishing Indian leaders whom we see now sitting in the parliament experienced the sorrow and distress at the time of partition. The feeling was as same as we felt when we lost East Pakistan.<<
You forget that East Pakistan was at least as large if not larger in population than West Pakistan, so your saying you lost it is absurd. Have you ever heard of the Bangladeshis saying they lost West Pakistan? Get a clue.
>>Pakistan looked ahead after that, never tried to stab Bangladesh from the back.<<
Why would you want to stab Bangladesh in the back? You had already stabbed them from the front and left them bleeding when you were forced to leave and you admitted in your last post that ISI is busy in Banglaesh stirring the religious cauldron.
>> India could not come out of the immense shock since 1947. Better try to wash those memories.<<
India was always more an idea of a culture than a country within shifting borders sometimes east of the Indus or east of the Hindu kush at other times and now it is to the east of Pakistan. What is West Pakistan has no cultural moorings and you look to Arabia for all inspiration so much so that you think Mohammed Bin Qasim was the first Muslim Pakistani. With partition Muslims in Pakistan seem to have lost all self-respect. They almost beg to be considered an extension of Arabia.
>>When you say that I justify ISI's involvement in uprising in various parts in India, I think that it is a tit for tat action.<<
I suspect that your media, as a cover up for the terror of life in various parts of Pakistan, have been blowing up the pin pricks that are part of the landscape of India since independence into life threatening occurrences. Your ISI has been trying to tip those pins with some poison since 1971.
>>I strongly support every action of ISI in supporting, funding and strengthening the uprising in various parts of India.<<
You should then have no complaints about what you claim are RAW's interference in Pakistan. Let the two compete and see who comes out the winner. Keep the competition between the US and the USSR in mind.
>> To tackle an enemy who had given so many wounds, you should be prepared for an assault of high magnitude. Many strings inside India are now actively controlled by ISI.
We see supporters of Pakistani inside Indian Parliament too when Mumbai terror attacks were exposed as internal game of Sanghi pariwar.<<
You surprise me. You said just in the previous statements that you are proud of the ISI and its activities in India and they even have reached into the parliament and government. Why are you not claiming credit for the ISI in manipulating the Sangh parivar into doing its dirty work?
>>Who can forget the remarks of Abdul Rehman Antulay in the Parliament which enraged many members of BJP, Shiv Sena and VHP. The truth cannot be hidden.<<
Antulay is a senile old Indian Muslim who somehow wanted to bring in the Muslims' bete noire, Modi, into the equation of Pakistani terror. He has very good Islamic precedents for his story, like your belief that the Israelis were responsible for 9/11.
>>Karkare the ATF Chief who was unfortunately the initial casualty of 26/11 was too close to grab the neck of Modi and his companions. You Indians are deliberately hiding that to save your face. It is ironic that the Karkare's blood has been wasted and his sacrifices have been drained in Ganges.<<
So the Mumbai attack was a plot by the Sangh parivar (family) to get Modi off hook? This is an even better story than the moon landing being just a Hollywood drama.
>>Plato, the Indian face is extremely black.<<
Indian faces are black, brown, yellow white and any colour you can name in between, but they not are bloody like the faces of Pakistanis (LeT, ISI, Taliban). You are a very confused person Mr. Mansoor. You are very proud of the ISI's shenanigans in India. But when a massacre engineered by them is exposed you ‘hide your face' and say the ISI is innocent. Why are you not out thumping your chest and congratulating the ISI?
>> I hate those Banyas who kill their own people and many innocent foreigners just to draft an ugly game against Pakistan.<<
Banias kill their own people? and which bania would that be? Mahatma Gandhi? Gandhi, the bania, was responsible for saving thousands of Muslim lives and he himself was killed for his pains. You of course would have swallowed the mulla story that he was some kind of scheming bania. Martin Luther King to Mandela to Barack Obama are his fans.
Take look at the leadership in India today. Manmohan Singh a bania? Sonia Gandhi a bania? The chief Justice a bania? How many chief ministers of Indian states can you name as banias?
>>Please try to acknowledge the truth.<<
Yes, why don't you start acknowledging the truth that the ISI is responsible for the violence not just in India but also in Pakistan via Taliban its monster baby. This baby is now crying for the blood of Pakistan, especially the blood of its women. How many girls' schools have they blown up. Do you see an American or ISI hand behind them? Are you not aware of what the ISI's baby is doing in your Swat valley? How many people have they murdered. At last count it numbered more than the Israelis killed in Gaza.
Read what a Pakistani paper has written on the issue (you can of course claim that it is a RAW publication):
With Palestine in limelight, Swat Valley burns silently
Wednesday, January 21, 2009
By Delawar Jan
PESHAWAR: One could not differentiate between two pictures in Tuesday's papers showing the widely scattered rubble of the destroyed buildings in Gaza and blown up schools in Swat valley until reading their captions.
The valley is replete with such scenes, as more than 170 schools have been bombed or torched besides other government-owned buildings. Also, more people have been killed in violence and military operations in the valley than the Israeli onslaught on Gaza, but the people have been unfortunate not to get due attention of the government, politico-religious parties and civil society, who have been crowding streets to protest the killing of Palestinians. ….
This is an example of how Muslims show more solidarity with Arab Muslims than close neighbourhood Muslims.
Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".
Reader comments (890) on this item
Comment on this item
You can help support Daniel Pipes' work by making a tax-deductible donation to the Middle East Forum. Daniel J. Pipes